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Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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Moved from an iMac to a self-built Win10 workstation after the Catalina update completely bricked my Mac's firmware and Apple store in my area wanted to bill me 1.5k EUR for the repairs without any guarantees it'll work. Suggested I buy a new machine.

So I did. Went with a slightly odd choice of Windows 10 for Workstations, but the stability, extensibility with PowerShell, WSL2 and ReFS are super solid. Great for development, great for the Adobe suite.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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Switching from OSX to widows. Bad idea, anyway!

It works fine nowadays in general for software development with: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about You can even have VS code running extension on it and such: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/wsl Source: I did software development on a window machine recently for a job.

It unfortunately doesn't work fine as an OS. I moved to Macs over two years ago, had to work on multiple Macs(2 2018, 1 2020) and literally had ONE issue during update which was solved in 15 seconds by rebooting into whatever the name of the super menu in Macs. My girlfriend on the other hand routinely faces issues with Windows updates, drivers issues, WiFi not working, random restarts, noise issues. And this is on 2.5k lenovo, which puts it into the same bucket as my MBP. If she didn't need Windows for work she would switch to Mac without looking back.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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While Apple has certainly made their share of mistakes in designing laptops (like designing a laptop that will crash because it doesn't starts it's fans when the graphics card get hot, or the butterfly keyboard) general quality is how they trap you. People normal say that Apple lock you into their ecosystem, but that's not the main reason I generally choose Apple product. My reasoning is: That the hell else do you su…

Yup, I've been running a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) since it was released, and I've had ZERO issues with the hardware or macOS. It just works. I do always run one major version behind the latest macOS release though.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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While Apple has certainly made their share of mistakes in designing laptops (like designing a laptop that will crash because it doesn't starts it's fans when the graphics card get hot, or the butterfly keyboard) general quality is how they trap you. People normal say that Apple lock you into their ecosystem, but that's not the main reason I generally choose Apple product. My reasoning is: That the hell else do you su…

Ultimately, this is what I found since switching from Windows to macOS back in 2014. The build quality of their computers is second to none. There are some manufacturers that get close to Apple build quality, but their price is right up there, too. Not to mention, the warranty coverage and support from Apple is second-to-none. I've had a few issues with laptops over the years (the late 2016 model, but not the keyboar…

> With anyone else, it would be weeks of turnaround time.

I've had Dell repair techs out to my house through warranty services for same day repairs. Apple offers no such thing.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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I dunno, seems like the author had their mind made up from the get go. I use a T480 with Windows and its been a great experience. Lenovo doesn't bog down the image with their own software and it only had their firmware manager.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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What distro did you run? I have been contemplating the same with PureOS

I'm not the OP, but I ran ArchLinux with great success on my Carbon X1C. Everything other than the fingerprint reader were recognized and "just worked". I did also try Manjaro for a few months. It was not too bad either. I did have to fiddle with a few more things to get sound working properly (when I plugged into an external monitor).

Another vote here for ThinkPads.

I have a t480s and an X1C for work, both with arch and they both run beautifully using the same configs and dotfiles on both (with a few minor changes around display resolutions).

They're solid machines if you get a good one and the keyboards are IMO the best you can get.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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While Apple has certainly made their share of mistakes in designing laptops (like designing a laptop that will crash because it doesn't starts it's fans when the graphics card get hot, or the butterfly keyboard) general quality is how they trap you. People normal say that Apple lock you into their ecosystem, but that's not the main reason I generally choose Apple product. My reasoning is: That the hell else do you su…

I, personally, do not find macOS to be such a huge UI win that I will absolutely not settle for anything a jot or tittle less. Especially now. Work makes me use a Mac, and while the UI is nice, recent macOS is much more full of jank and bugs that ruin the experience. I grew up on old-school 90s Linux, where part of the fun was deciding which program you wanted to compile from source to accomplish a given task. So I m…

I agree. In the last ten years I have had Macbooks, a Surface tablet, a Surfacebook, and am now on a XPS 13. I found that Microsoft's surfaces had great build quality, IMHO on par or better than the Apple laptops. Like the author of the article, though, what did them in was Windows. I switched to an XPS developer edition and have not looked back. Don't get me wrong - macos is pretty, but Linux makes coding and data science easy. I also ended up using PopOS, which I found to give an extremely good user experience. Perhaps I am too much of an old school 90's Linux guy, but I still find having a single repo system for 99% of my needed software amazing. I don't think I'll ever get tired of apt-get.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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Agreed. I switched from macOS to Linux, and i don't see the point if you're not getting something very valuable out of it. I am however, in my mind, so i'm quite happpy. Specifically, i'm toying with immutable operating systems. I view that as valuable because i feel confident in the stability and reproducibility of my system. I'd probably switch back to macOS if they offered something similar to NixOS, but that seem…

so reproducible on the metal or on a VM on the host OS? I have a very little skin in the game but always interested in other peoples takes (I am trying to relaunch github.com/mikadosoftware/workstation - basically I want to get ssh -X working for wayland on fedora)

Not sure i follow - but reproducible in the sense that i want a lockfile (ala Cargo, NPM, etc) for my entire operating system. Allowing me to rebuild it perfectly.

NixOS has a lot of flaws in my mind (though some may just be inexperience), but it has some super solid concepts of configuration first systems.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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Ultimately, this is what I found since switching from Windows to macOS back in 2014. The build quality of their computers is second to none. There are some manufacturers that get close to Apple build quality, but their price is right up there, too. Not to mention, the warranty coverage and support from Apple is second-to-none. I've had a few issues with laptops over the years (the late 2016 model, but not the keyboar…

> With anyone else, it would be weeks of turnaround time. I've had Dell repair techs out to my house through warranty services for same day repairs. Apple offers no such thing.

Was that part of an individual purchase, or a corporate account? I think Dell treats companies really well.

Re: Switching from Apple to Lenovo

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> With anyone else, it would be weeks of turnaround time. I've had Dell repair techs out to my house through warranty services for same day repairs. Apple offers no such thing.

Was that part of an individual purchase, or a corporate account? I think Dell treats companies really well.

You can buy that warranty coverage as an individual for very little money.

I recommend Dell to my friends because the warranty coverage is so exceptional.

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