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The growing peril of war with China over Taiwan

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Re: The growing peril of war with China over Taiwan

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The truth is, China do not want to control Taiwan, and China do not want to lose Taiwan. Sounds contradict but because it is. Let's take Hong Kong for example, Hong Kong has changed China's view on this issue completely. Hong Kong would be a much better asset for China if it is independent but stay Chinese. China does not need another city. The problem is that even though Hong Kong is Chinese, the movement of seeking…

Oh please, the independence movement wouldn't have gotten any traction had they simply continued the original strategy of imparting the changes over generations but the emperor can't appear to be weak and none of the political appointments at the leaison wanted to risk their necks to call out how stupid the strategy was.

Exactly. If the emperor shows his weakness, the empire could collapse. If you have followed the story, China has been asking Hong Kong to implement Basic Law 23 from 2008, it was a guarantee for no independence movement, and they couldn't do it until 2020, the National Security law was basically forced on Hong Kong because its inability to implement it. China was hoping to continue the original strategy but the movement has been used as evidence that the original strategy will not work. Also you have to know, there are so much wealth from Chinese officials and elite family are in Hong Kong, there would be strong power within the party to keep Hong Kong as it is, unfortunately they are losing ground because of whats happening on TV. You don't have to mention that Hong Kong was set to be a model for the one country two systems example, China has all the reasons to make it work as much as possible. Okay, I just wanted to analyze what's happened in my way of thinking, not trying to play the judge.

Re: The growing peril of war with China over Taiwan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh please, the independence movement wouldn't have gotten any traction had they simply continued the original strategy of imparting the changes over generations but the emperor can't appear to be weak and none of the political appointments at the leaison wanted to risk their necks to call out how stupid the strategy was.

Exactly. If the emperor shows his weakness, the empire could collapse. If you have followed the story, China has been asking Hong Kong to implement Basic Law 23 from 2008, it was a guarantee for no independence movement, and they couldn't do it until 2020, the National Security law was basically forced on Hong Kong because its inability to implement it. China was hoping to continue the original strategy but the movem…

“Before 1997, the British colonial government introduced the Crimes (Amendment)(No.2) Bill 1996 in an attempt to concretise the concepts of "subversion" and "secession" by confining them to actual violent conduct but of no avail. The bill was voted down in the elected Legislative Council of Hong Kong amid opposition from Beijing and thus left a vacuum in the present legislation.[4]”

-Wikipedia in Basic Law 23

Re: The growing peril of war with China over Taiwan

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This is the same Ambassador who noted: Tian'anmen, 1989: “The Politburo’s response to the mob scene at ‘Tian’anmen’ stands as a monument to overly cautious behavior on the part of the leadership, not as an example of rash action,” Freeman wrote at the time. “I do not believe it is acceptable for any country to allow the heart of its national capital to be occupied by dissidents intent on disrupting the normal functio…

Could you add your commentary to the quote? I don’t quite follow the point you are making, or how it connects to the article.

Re: The growing peril of war with China over Taiwan

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. If the emperor shows his weakness, the empire could collapse. If you have followed the story, China has been asking Hong Kong to implement Basic Law 23 from 2008, it was a guarantee for no independence movement, and they couldn't do it until 2020, the National Security law was basically forced on Hong Kong because its inability to implement it. China was hoping to continue the original strategy but the movem…

“Before 1997, the British colonial government introduced the Crimes (Amendment)(No.2) Bill 1996 in an attempt to concretise the concepts of "subversion" and "secession" by confining them to actual violent conduct but of no avail. The bill was voted down in the elected Legislative Council of Hong Kong amid opposition from Beijing and thus left a vacuum in the present legislation.[4]” -Wikipedia in Basic Law 23

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