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Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

vyrotek wrote: post #6

What other platforms compete with Zoom with comparable API integrations? We need features including: OAuth, Meeting scheduling, meeting link generation (without requiring user accounts), managing recordings, meeting status webhooks, etc. https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/zoom-api

I am not sure about some of the requirements, but we’ve had a lot of success with Uberconference. Google Meet is also decent if your are I the Google Workspace ecosystem.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by dehrmann »

> Jin’s co-conspirators created fake email accounts and Company-1 accounts in the names of others, including PRC political dissidents, to fabricate evidence that the hosts of and participants in the meetings to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre were supporting terrorist organizations, inciting violence or distributing child pornography. The fabricated evidence falsely asserted that the meetings included discussions of child abuse or exploitation, terrorism, racism or incitements to violence, and sometimes included screenshots of the purported participants’ user profiles featuring, for example, a masked person holding a flag resembling that of the Islamic State terrorist group.

Ah. So it's not quite disrupting meetings, it's framing people as pedophiles an terrorists.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by pstrateman »

ipnon wrote: post #20

As alleged, the defendant was an active agent of the CCP and PRC intelligence[a] working inside an American company to deny the rights of freedom of speech and religion to residents of America.[b] The PRC is willfully breaking American law to disenfranchise Americans of their constitutional rights. [a] “The allegations in the complaint lay bare the Faustian bargain that the PRC government demands of U.S. technology c…

Zoom is materially a Chinese company.

CEO is Chinese, staff are mostly Chinese.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by cwwc »

gruez wrote: post #15

Is this likely to go anywhere? The press release says an arrest warrant was issued, but the person charged isn't in custody. I doubt china is going to send him over, nor is he going to be on a plane headed to the US anytime soon, so nothing's going to happen to him unless he decides to enter the US?

True - unless he visits a country (like Huawei’s CFO did in Canada) where he is snagged at request of the US

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

pstrateman wrote: post #13
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt the behavior of a single rogue employee will present any significant difficulty to Zoom, to say nothing of being a mortal wound.

I think it's unlikely to be an isolated incident, 20 years from now we'll be reading stories about the CCP listening to every zoom call in the world for years. (Just the same as the CIA did with Crypto AG[1]) They were routing all calls such that the CCP could listen to them. [2] They lied about calls being End-To-End encrypted. [3] Zoom was founded by a Chinese national and all of their development is done in China.…

I'm willing to bet that the events described here will not be a mortal blow to Zoom, whether the event is isolated or only semi-isolated. To make it concrete, their market cap will still be above $10B on Jan 1 2022. I'll put up to $20 on it, to a non-religious charity of your choice. If you want to take the other side of that bet let me know.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by viraptor »

gruez wrote: post #15

Is this likely to go anywhere? The press release says an arrest warrant was issued, but the person charged isn't in custody. I doubt china is going to send him over, nor is he going to be on a plane headed to the US anytime soon, so nothing's going to happen to him unless he decides to enter the US?

I guess it ensures he isn't on that plane in the future. Or on a plane to cooperating countries. (Which for an executive may be a serious problem)

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by ipnon »

gruez wrote: post #15

Is this likely to go anywhere? The press release says an arrest warrant was issued, but the person charged isn't in custody. I doubt china is going to send him over, nor is he going to be on a plane headed to the US anytime soon, so nothing's going to happen to him unless he decides to enter the US?

It's newsworthy that PRC is recruiting Chinese citizens in executive positions of American companies to pursue the intelligence interests of the CCP by disenfranchising Americans of their constitutional rights and in willful violation of American law.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by cwwc »

pstrateman wrote: post #24
ipnon wrote: post #20

As alleged, the defendant was an active agent of the CCP and PRC intelligence[a] working inside an American company to deny the rights of freedom of speech and religion to residents of America.[b] The PRC is willfully breaking American law to disenfranchise Americans of their constitutional rights. [a] “The allegations in the complaint lay bare the Faustian bargain that the PRC government demands of U.S. technology c…

Zoom is materially a Chinese company. CEO is Chinese, staff are mostly Chinese.

Interestingly, the number of CCP members employed is way over the baseline quota demanded by Beijing (where usually companies like Jet.com and alibaba will struggle to retain and meet this quota, Zoom has never seemed to has this issue...)
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