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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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Their share price is down nearly 15-16% on open. Must be absolutely terrifying for them. I hope their management's ego recovers well.

I'm wondering how it would have looked if they had just postponed the launch.

The easiest way to find out is to wait. CDPR always sells their games before they’re ready then continues development for a few years. It’s an unacceptable practice but the market allows (and thusfar has rewarded) this practice.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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Interesting. I've been playing it on PC now for ~15 hours and have only seen a couple of minor bugs. I wonder how the experience is so different for users.

Crashing here constantly. What GPU/CPU combo do you have? Seems to be rather sensitive to that. I've had no issues with any other games on this PC. 3700X / B550M / GTX 1660 here.

3900X / 5700XT

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering how it would have looked if they had just postponed the launch.

The easiest way to find out is to wait. CDPR always sells their games before they’re ready then continues development for a few years. It’s an unacceptable practice but the market allows (and thusfar has rewarded) this practice.

If the market allows it, it’s an acceptable practice. Just a distasteful one

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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I don't get the folks who expect, exactly from this studio, to have perfect bug-less game on Day-1. I mean, how far detached from reality and clueless about games in general must you be? There are very few studios who can produce such quality prior to release (ie last Zelda), but I guess they are not under such pressure to release on many platforms in parallel just before christmas. It will be an amazing game once th…

From top of my head: GTAV, RDR2, Ghost of Tsushima, FF7 remake, Demon's Souls Remake, nioh 2, Dragon Quest Builders 2 - all got released on console in a proper good playable state without any giant bugs (or even small ones if that matters). Played them all at launch day 1 and didn't encounter any issues, so it is totallly possible to release a finished game in 2020 ;)

Sadly Cyberpunk 2077 is not that, game on consoles looks like a PoC demo at best.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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Their share price is down nearly 15-16% on open. Must be absolutely terrifying for them. I hope their management's ego recovers well.

I'm wondering how it would have looked if they had just postponed the launch.

According to the conference call, they never really prioritized performance on prev gen consoles. We don't know if this would have changed with more time or if they would have used the time for other fixes / features.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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I don't get the folks who expect, exactly from this studio, to have perfect bug-less game on Day-1. I mean, how far detached from reality and clueless about games in general must you be? There are very few studios who can produce such quality prior to release (ie last Zelda), but I guess they are not under such pressure to release on many platforms in parallel just before christmas. It will be an amazing game once th…

> I don't get the folks who expect, exactly from this studio, to have perfect bug-less game on Day-1. I mean, how far detached from reality and clueless about games in general must you be?

50 years ago the quality of the code was much better. I expect some things from SW that I buy: 1. To run on normal HW (i.e. home PC or laptop dedicated mainly to web browsing and watching movies) or on the target HW 2. To have a usable interface ( Hello MS, Apple, Google - do you listen ?) 3. To be bug free or at least the main anoying bugs to be fixed. (Hello MS, Google - do you listen ?)(yes i paid for my Android phone)

>There are very few studios who can produce such quality prior to release (ie last Zelda), but I guess they are not under such pressure to release on many platforms in parallel just before christmas.

I'm impressed. So you are saying that a lot of "studios" produce crap and this is ok because other do it.

> It will be an amazing game once the patches progresses, and if you are tolerant I am sure it already is.

That's what they said about MS Windows too and look what it became of it.

> I would expect decent in 2 months, great in 6 months, awesome in 1-2 years (unofficial patches/modding including). Just like many other open world games.

See MS Windows.

> Personally, I'll wait for those 2 months at least, also due to getting better/smoother performance out of my current PC rig. I have no doubt its a game I will enjoy tremendously, again and again, it fits my preferred style very much.

Until one day when you had enough of its bugs, you smash the keyboard and the mouse in despair and you uninstall it.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 removed from PS Store and refunded

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wondering how it would have looked if they had just postponed the launch.

The easiest way to find out is to wait. CDPR always sells their games before they’re ready then continues development for a few years. It’s an unacceptable practice but the market allows (and thusfar has rewarded) this practice.

While this is true, the current state of this particular game is not good enough even for a pre-ready launch. The models that are just blobs and take ages to render in, the constant crashes on all platforms in the opening missions and a number of other bugs have made the game close to unplayable. I do hope they manage to bring the game to a workable state though because it's clearly fantastic from a story, environment and gameplay standpoint.
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