Well, a bit of a different twist on the meaning of "found art". [0] A step up from signing your name on a toilet bowel and shoving it in an art gallery. (Though not as funny.)
Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
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Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my first luxury apartment, I was paranoid to leave the door unlocked even momentarily to go to the trash shoot. The concern wears off. The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life. That’s the price of admission.
> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me.
I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications.
Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when friends hired others.
Maybe there's a point where you have enough money to hire highly qualified people. But I doubt it's anywhere below $10M net worth. Below that you're just not likely to start handing out $150 per hour for what I would consider fairly standard yard or other work. At least I'm not.
Or maybe the trick is to hire a supervisor as well. So first you hire someone to do the work and then you hire someone to supervise it. Unless of course the supervisor also does a bad job. But then I can hire a supervisor for the supervisor.
Most likely I just wasn't good enough in the hiring process. So I probably should have hired someone to do the hiring for me. But what if I hired the wrong person, because I'm not good at hiring?
Now I'm sitting on piles of money and I'm still doing everything myself.
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when frien…
150/hr for fairly standard yard work? Shit, I used to do 'fairly standard' yard work for a twentieth of that. Or do you mean hiring an entire team of people at that rate?
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when frien…
I’ve found that hiring anyone to do anything custom one off as an individual is extremely hard as you pointed out. You are much better off knowing someone in the business who will do it for you as a favor or recommend someone to do it. So I guess it comes down to connections or relationships and if you’re a typical well off transplant in a big city connections to blue collar workers are typically very lacking.
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#25> thoroughly examined the contents of paper recycling dumpsters used by the cleaning crew. I've seen comments elsewhere noting how German it supposedly is to examine the paper dumpsters only, and to actually be right about it. So to nip this in the bud, let me state for the record that these are mediocre Germans at best: Oil-on-canvas does not belong in the paper recycling. They should have separated the cardboard bo…
Nip in the "bud" not "butt" as long as we're offing exacting critiques ;) https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/nip+in+the+bud
I think you might mean offering, not offing.
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#26Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#27> thoroughly examined the contents of paper recycling dumpsters used by the cleaning crew. I've seen comments elsewhere noting how German it supposedly is to examine the paper dumpsters only, and to actually be right about it. So to nip this in the bud, let me state for the record that these are mediocre Germans at best: Oil-on-canvas does not belong in the paper recycling. They should have separated the cardboard bo…
Don’t worry, a fastidious HN’er nipped your thing in the butt
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#28Travelling from Germany (in EU) to Israel (outside of EU) with something worth 300k - is there any chance it’s not someone trying to hide a big transfer from the German state? (Good for him if so! Tax evasion is moral)
Hide it how? By forgetting it, calling the police (twice), and having your otherwise boring art purchase make the international news?
Besides, wouldn't it be the seller that's liable for taxes? And if they're trying to hide from Israeli customs then (a) good luck with that, and (b) as far as I can tell, their plan was to... just travel to Israel with the painting? What's the plot here, exactly? I'd at least get someone to paint a few replicas and import them as a set.
Also tax evasion isn't moral.
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when frien…
I think I understand your dilemma.
Just earlier this year, I was quoted $795 to run a thermostat wire 10 feet, no drilling required.
Task Rabbit has people charging north of $80/hr for simple yard work (leaf collection, bush trimming, super standard stuff that a teenager could do).
Sure, I could gamble with a cheap contractor, but if they do something badly, it's going to cost 2x as much to redo it properly.
I honestly don't know if I'll ever reach a net worth where I'm comfortable paying people more per hour than my own job, with the possible exception of doctors.
Re: Surrealist painting found in recycling bin at German airport
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when frien…
I have the exact same problem. It’s impossible to find competent labor that is willing to do what they’re told.
I want my baby’s laundry hand washed.
I want the towels to be dried in low heat.
I want to use wooden spoons on my expensive enamel pans.
Instead housekeepers routinely disobey and then lie about it. And a home chef is unrepentant about scratching my pans with metal utensils. They just don’t care. If it were their own things they would put more thought and labor into it.
I have to get on my hands and knees to scrub the floor after some recalcitrant $70/hour pair of maids refuse to do anything more than wipe the grime back and forth with a swiferjet.