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EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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> Furthermore, the law specifies that local officials can send cross-border orders to make tech firms remove content or provide access to information, wherever their EU headquarter is based. That just sounds like the opposite of privacy and additionally restrictions on free speech. If Poland doesn’t like a YouTube video criticizing their government it sounds like they now have a legal framework to get that removed, f…

Is imposing restrictions on foreign companies bad?

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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A interesting point missing from the BBC article is that they have different levels of expectations between small to medium businesses and large ones, to avoid regulatory capture ? : > Platforms that reach more than 10% of the EU's population (45 million users) are considered systemic in nature, and are subject not only to specific obligations to control their own risks, but also to a new oversight structure. Another…

Isn't 10% too low a number to consider a platform systemic?

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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> The operators of online platforms - such as social media apps and video-sharing sites of any size - must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers", who have a track record of highlighting valid problems. Who determines which problems are valid? Unless I overlooked something, this article seems really vague. > Likewise, all online stores must be able to trace traders selling goods via their platforms, in ca…

> must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers" That's the real concern here. Speech must be handled very carefully, but now we're elevating some specific people to be 'more equal' than others? Who are these people, and why do they get more say? I can see that opening a can of worms. I don't live in the EU, but just like that well intentioned but shortsighted cookie law, the rest of us will have to deal wit…

Who are these people, and why do they get more say? I assumed their level of "trustworthy" comes from them consistently flagging content or issues of the platform and those reports being valid, as some sort of reputation system, and not some users being selected for more arbitrary reasons.

I could be wrong though.

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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> The operators of online platforms - such as social media apps and video-sharing sites of any size - must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers", who have a track record of highlighting valid problems. Who determines which problems are valid? Unless I overlooked something, this article seems really vague. > Likewise, all online stores must be able to trace traders selling goods via their platforms, in ca…

> must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers" That's the real concern here. Speech must be handled very carefully, but now we're elevating some specific people to be 'more equal' than others? Who are these people, and why do they get more say? I can see that opening a can of worms. I don't live in the EU, but just like that well intentioned but shortsighted cookie law, the rest of us will have to deal wit…

This is the trend of the past decade. More and more people are expected to work as replaceable drones without any real career advancement, or a shot at affording retirement, house, or family/kids. But the social pressure resulting from this is cleverly redirected. Instead of being passionate about starting their own business (and competing with the former employer), they are now passionate about policing what others can say or do. Instead of creating a new cool product, they create rules that others must follow in fear of being canceled.

This costs nothing on the corporate expense sheets, but makes the society increasingly more toxic.

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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> The operators of online platforms - such as social media apps and video-sharing sites of any size - must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers", who have a track record of highlighting valid problems. Who determines which problems are valid? Unless I overlooked something, this article seems really vague. > Likewise, all online stores must be able to trace traders selling goods via their platforms, in ca…

> must prioritise complaints raised by "trusted flaggers" That's the real concern here. Speech must be handled very carefully, but now we're elevating some specific people to be 'more equal' than others? Who are these people, and why do they get more say? I can see that opening a can of worms. I don't live in the EU, but just like that well intentioned but shortsighted cookie law, the rest of us will have to deal wit…

> That's the real concern here. Speech must be handled very carefully, but now we're elevating some specific people to be 'more equal' than others? Who are these people, and why do they get more say? I can see that opening a can of worms.

Well, who are the people that censor all other kinds of media? As far as I know movies are censored (Motion Picture Production Code, Motion Picture Association film rating system), music is censored (Parental Advisories), TV is censored (TV station licenses), radio (radio station licenses) is censored, news paper are censored (I can't find the exact reference).

The roof hasn't fallen because of existing censorship, or am I missing something?

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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post #21
post #19

> Furthermore, the law specifies that local officials can send cross-border orders to make tech firms remove content or provide access to information, wherever their EU headquarter is based. That just sounds like the opposite of privacy and additionally restrictions on free speech. If Poland doesn’t like a YouTube video criticizing their government it sounds like they now have a legal framework to get that removed, f…

Is imposing restrictions on foreign companies bad?

If your intention is to hinder foreign competition, then yes. If it ends up doing that then I’d expect the US to take it to the WTO.

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A interesting point missing from the BBC article is that they have different levels of expectations between small to medium businesses and large ones, to avoid regulatory capture ? : It's easy to overlook, but the BBC article does have this line: > It introduces a sliding scale, under which firms take on more obligations the larger and more influential they are. > Another interesting tidbit is the answer to the com…

> they don't have a responsibility to protect free speech because they are a private entity It continually amazes me when I see people who are ostensibly on the left trotting out this chestnut like as though it's even remotely a valid argument for the curtailment of one of the most important rights over the past few centuries. It's like as though they're in complete denial about the idea that this kind of speech cont…

Strange argument your making there. One of the interesting side effects of free speech rights is also the prevention of forced speech. After all how can you have free speech if someone else can force to express views you don’t hold?

Why should my right to free speech trump your right to not be forced to speak? Equally what right to I have to force any corporation to publish and distribute speech they don’t agree with?

Based on the argument your making, you’re saying that I have the right to go to your home, plaster it with posters that you disagree with, then prevent you from removing them.

Does that sound like free speech to you?

Re: EU reveals plan to regulate Big Tech

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A interesting point missing from the BBC article is that they have different levels of expectations between small to medium businesses and large ones, to avoid regulatory capture ? : > Platforms that reach more than 10% of the EU's population (45 million users) are considered systemic in nature, and are subject not only to specific obligations to control their own risks, but also to a new oversight structure. Another…

Isn't 10% too low a number to consider a platform systemic?

Nah. I can see why it sounds small, but I'm having trouble thinking of places where 10% isn't of huge significance.

If you drink one cup of coffee a day, that's less than 10% of your waking time, but coffee is systemic to your life.

If 10% of your cells have a defect, that defect is systemic to your body.

If your API is down 10% of the time...

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