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Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Links involving MDMA, LSD, and shrooms often get upvoted to the top of HN. Is there anywhere to read the consensus on news, both legal and scientific, on what’s the current status of psychedelics and recreational drugs worldwide?

Also not on the scientific end, but if you search Reddit within specefic sub's dedicated toward the mental difficulties they are aiming to change, you'll find healthy discussion of the developments and personal experiances. Avoid /r/drugs and all those.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've read/listened to this is generally not the case. The kind of psychedelic-assisted research that's happening today uses full doses that induce a "spirtual" experience, not microdoses. I'll see if I can dig up actual links but a big source of information I have on this topic is from the fascinating and highly recommended Drug Science podcast: https://www.drugscience.org.uk/introducing-the-drug-science-..…

no, microdosing is being researched to treat moderate to severe depression, schizophrenia and epilepsy. a microdose vs a full dose is likened to feeling tipsy vs full blown paralysis, with alcohol. to give a mentally fragile person a mind altering out of body experience is a bad idea

"to give a mentally fragile person a mind altering out of body experience is a bad idea"

There was some early research which reported success in using LSD and psilocybin to treat schizophrenia in children:

https://maps.org/news-letters/v07n3/07318fis.html

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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>allowing them to possess and use psilocybin for personal training without fear of prosecution under the country's drug laws.

There are literally hundreds of websites that will mail you magic mushroom spores, live magic mushroom mycelium, magic mushroom growing kits where you just add water and wait, and dried magic mushrooms.

I have never heard of any of them so much as being hassled let alone prosecuted for selling any of those products.

It's pretty safe to say magic mushrooms are quasi decriminalized in Canada right now.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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>allowing them to possess and use psilocybin for personal training without fear of prosecution under the country's drug laws. There are literally hundreds of websites that will mail you magic mushroom spores, live magic mushroom mycelium, magic mushroom growing kits where you just add water and wait, and dried magic mushrooms. I have never heard of any of them so much as being hassled let alone prosecuted for selling…

Yeah I get text messages from weed dispensaries in BC for dried mushroom deals.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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>allowing them to possess and use psilocybin for personal training without fear of prosecution under the country's drug laws. There are literally hundreds of websites that will mail you magic mushroom spores, live magic mushroom mycelium, magic mushroom growing kits where you just add water and wait, and dried magic mushrooms. I have never heard of any of them so much as being hassled let alone prosecuted for selling…

Yeah I get text messages from weed dispensaries in BC for dried mushroom deals.

Oh Canada. Where the natural way is illegal, but the synthetic way with designer psilocybin analogues is totally legal!

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Links involving MDMA, LSD, and shrooms often get upvoted to the top of HN. Is there anywhere to read the consensus on news, both legal and scientific, on what’s the current status of psychedelics and recreational drugs worldwide?

The book How To Change Your Mind has a great deal of the history and current state of the science.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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I just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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I just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.

But what information was accessible to them to change their mind? They wouldn't have seen headlines like this unless their local newspaper chose to run the article. They wouldn't have been able to go searching for this information without going to a library.

I'm not defending their stance, but I think it's easy to forget that we have a lot more information thrown at us in a given day than they probably had in a decade.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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I just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.

But what information was accessible to them to change their mind? They wouldn't have seen headlines like this unless their local newspaper chose to run the article. They wouldn't have been able to go searching for this information without going to a library. I'm not defending their stance, but I think it's easy to forget that we have a lot more information thrown at us in a given day than they probably had in a decad…

True, but we are not talking about 100% of the over 60 crowd. We're talking about maybe 65% give or take. There were opportunities for people to expand their perspectives. Many took those opportunities, most did not, and as the evidence mounted over the decades, the rate at which those generations shifted their opinions was embarrassingly slow (and came at a tremendous cost of human suffering, while conferring them no benefit).

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Links involving MDMA, LSD, and shrooms often get upvoted to the top of HN. Is there anywhere to read the consensus on news, both legal and scientific, on what’s the current status of psychedelics and recreational drugs worldwide?

Also not on the scientific end, but if you search Reddit within specefic sub's dedicated toward the mental difficulties they are aiming to change, you'll find healthy discussion of the developments and personal experiances. Avoid /r/drugs and all those.

Any specific subs you’d recommend? I enjoy /r/drugs occasionally because of the interesting stories that I can live vicariously through, but I’m interested in learning more.
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