Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by ThePadawan » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 PM UTC

fowlie wrote: post #14

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

Well my mom knows how to use WhatsApp. All the women in her knitting club are using it to stay in touch with their grandkids.

She probably doesn't know what an SMS is (those are those things her bank sends her, right?).

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by TLightful » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:12 PM UTC

Excellent new mode. Leave it.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by bitcharmer » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:14 PM UTC

fowlie wrote: post #14

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

> How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger?

99% of all the ones I care about to be honest.

Maybe it's a function of me being an eastern-european expat living in London, but almost every here (Europe) uses WhatsApp.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by mantap » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:19 PM UTC

fowlie wrote: post #14

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

A lot more than with SMS. You can send someone an SMS but they are not going to respond because either they cost money or they have some tiny allowance of them.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by florianmari » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:27 PM UTC

It's not only Facebook, a lot of services, Deezer, some operators in France... https://downdetector.fr/

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by lokethien » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:30 PM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #15

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Everyone use Snapchat in Norway

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by darren_ » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:30 PM UTC

fowlie wrote: post #14

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

> How many people can you reach with SMS?

Essentially no-one as we've all stopped trading actual phone numbers years ago.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by raziel2p » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:33 PM UTC

darren_ wrote: post #27

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

> How many people can you reach with SMS? Essentially no-one as we've all stopped trading actual phone numbers years ago.

Eh, most messengers use phone number as the primary identifier these days. Whether I use Telegram, Signal or WhatsApp, I add people using their phone number. In the last 3 years or so I can think of one exception where someone preferred Discord but I still got their phone number as a "backup".

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:37 PM UTC

keyle wrote: post #12

vezycash wrote: post #4

Feels intentional. Last time fb was being probed, the site went down too.

Please if you feel like making claims like that, provide context and at least a reference. Otherwise it sounds like conspiracy theories and ... oh who's this guy at my door in a black suit, he has a shiny ligh...

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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by acvny » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 12:41 PM UTC

cblconfederate wrote: post #13

Quick, build a competitor

There are hundreds of facebook alternatives websites already and dozens of Instagram and Messenger and WhatsApp. I guess tiktok will literally replace Instagram very soon (not because of this outage, but it will help).