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Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

Why is everyone assuming that just because someone works for Google has to be competent? Solving algorithmic puzzles is not an indicator or actual technical skills.

To me, it looks like a work of incompetent developers led by incompetent technical managers upon requirements of clueless and ignorant product managers.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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Atlassian Jira is dog slow too. Drives me nuts.

Atlassian is one of those places that I just can't believe has gotten so widely used. Every single thing I've used that is an Atlassian product drives me nuts. I really don't understand how anyone at any point looked at Jira or Confluence or anything Atlassian puts out and said "yep, this is the best version of this thing I've seen, sign me up". I've been using JIRA for years now, and it never gets any easier or bett…

We're using self-hosted Jira and it's fast enough. From what I gather the cloud version is what's dog slow?

We'll likely find something else once the self-hosted version expires in a couple of years, unless the cloud version gets up to speed.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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Atlassian Jira is dog slow too. Drives me nuts.

Atlassian is one of those places that I just can't believe has gotten so widely used. Every single thing I've used that is an Atlassian product drives me nuts. I really don't understand how anyone at any point looked at Jira or Confluence or anything Atlassian puts out and said "yep, this is the best version of this thing I've seen, sign me up". I've been using JIRA for years now, and it never gets any easier or bett…

I guess I am older but pre jira things were so much worse that yeah... best version of this thing I’ve seen. Not that I love it but it’s functional and not an Oracle form or some ugly crud tool cookie cut for a process different than my teams.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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That's what happens when you employ over-enthusiastic developers obsessed with their Javascript-framework-legacy. Things worked fast when HTML was the UI, and the logic was in the server.

Slow servers are a thing too you know.

At least if the server is slow it's likely to be slow for everyone

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

I suspect there's something in that comment on above-average network connections - the people working on Google Cloud's UI are going to be doing so from Google networks, or over a Google VPN, which means they'll be seeing much lower latency to your average person who has to be bounced around their ISP network and then across a couple of peering providers before getting there.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

This happens with web design a lot. I have a great monitor with a 1080p budget monitor on the side. It makes a huge difference when thinking about shadows, UI changes, etc which are almost invisible on the 1080p sometimes. I test my sites on both.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

This is something that really concerns me about the new M1 based Macbooks. We as developers in the first world are very likely to be the first ones getting these, and this will make the gap with the average end user which usually does not have a mac a lot worse.

I'm not far from imagining a non so distant distopic future where everyone just gets used to slow, laggy, clunky websites and applications. Oh... wait...

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