Please change the title. No way does Bret state that you shouldn't work there. Just that he can't show you anything.
Bret Victor on working at Apple.
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Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#22It would be awesome if Bret wasn't using so many CSS3 effects on his site, causing my iOS browser to crash repeatedly.
Not sure what you mean. It works just fine on my iPhone. Maybe you need to update your iOS version on your device?
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#23This is just the nature of the business. I have nothing in my portfolio from 2007 until now. None of my work is as interesting or potentially valuable as anything I might have done at Apple - mostly UIs for games then UIs for banks. But all of it is under NDA.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#24The post is almost content-free, we all know apple is secretive. But that website is a work of art, although it does crawl in chrome on my current-gen mac mini. If the guy doesn't like apple, I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work elsewhere. EDIT: re-reading, I see that he has.
Just to provide a counter-point, from a usability point of view I found that article terrible.
On the 1920 pixels wide screen at work, more than half the horizontal width became buttons (previous and next). As soon as the mouse pointer was outside the white background for the linked-to article, a click lead to navigating away from the article.
It took me at least two or three times of wondering where the fsck the article I was reading went, before I realized what was going on. Apparantly randomly clicking on what looks like (and ought to be) passive whitespace is a bad habit, on today's web.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#25The post is almost content-free, we all know apple is secretive. But that website is a work of art, although it does crawl in chrome on my current-gen mac mini. If the guy doesn't like apple, I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work elsewhere. EDIT: re-reading, I see that he has.
Perhaps he worked on his site when he worked there? I don't know, whenever I see concept work like this I think that it is an impressive hobby, but often I feel that perhaps the efforts could've been spent elsewhere, at least for the reasons you specify. I mean it has great texture, but it works like crap on my Chrome here as well.
It performs swimmingly in Firefox.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#26I'm sure for someone in this position it could get pretty frustrating to work at a place like Apple. On the one hand, you could invent something that could end up being used on a device used by hundreds of millions of people. On the other hand, that bar, purposely, is insanely high, so the likelihood that will happen is low. Corporate security aside, that just seems like the nature of the game at a company that values (and delivers) on a world class user experience.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#27Didn't read due to crap web design.
Why, the beautiful all-black page I get loading it without js enabled is quite elegant. I might well not have read the page, but I certainly appreciated it.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#28It would be awesome if Bret wasn't using so many CSS3 effects on his site, causing my iOS browser to crash repeatedly.
I don't get why you mentioned Bret at all, I think you must have meant that you wished your browser wasn't so crash-prone.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#29The post is almost content-free, we all know apple is secretive. But that website is a work of art, although it does crawl in chrome on my current-gen mac mini. If the guy doesn't like apple, I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work elsewhere. EDIT: re-reading, I see that he has.
Just to provide a counter-point, from a usability point of view I found that article terrible. On the 1920 pixels wide screen at work, more than half the horizontal width became buttons (previous and next). As soon as the mouse pointer was outside the white background for the linked-to article, a click lead to navigating away from the article. It took me at least two or three times of wondering where the fsck the art…
Who cares about the usability of this site. It's not done to be user friendly but rather to be explorable.
Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.
#30Please change the title. No way does Bret state that you shouldn't work there. Just that he can't show you anything.
Q - But that box is empty! It's an empty box!
A - Yes, exactly.
Q - Oh, okay, I thought you had made some sort of mistake.
A - Yes, exactly.