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Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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I saw Glass at a performing arts center in my hometown. The PAC has a lot of season ticket holders, and Glass' music triggered an older attendee to march to the front of the auditorium and yell, "this isn't music". He was quickly ushered out by his wife, but Glass was noticeably smirking, and the whole thing really added to the avant garde vibe of the performance. Amazing concert BTW. One of my favorite artists.

I wonder if there is any chance that's stagepersonship.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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No, Philip Glass's problem is that he believes he writes symphonies. He's the Donald Trump of the classical music world - trying desperately to be considered one of the "big ones," while piling on incessantly with new "works" that rehash the same tired minimalist tropes, which have all been explored by far more competent composers such as Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich. I am not surprised to read these glowing revi…

Is your goal with this comment to encourage people to give Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich a try, or is to try to convince others how much better at listening to music you are than them?

For anyone else who likes Glass's piano work, you might like some pieces by Yann Tiersen or Erik Satie.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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No, Philip Glass's problem is that he believes he writes symphonies. He's the Donald Trump of the classical music world - trying desperately to be considered one of the "big ones," while piling on incessantly with new "works" that rehash the same tired minimalist tropes, which have all been explored by far more competent composers such as Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich. I am not surprised to read these glowing revi…

Criticizing the work is one thing. Trying to bully people for finding beauty where you can't is kinda childish.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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post #22

No, Philip Glass's problem is that he believes he writes symphonies. He's the Donald Trump of the classical music world - trying desperately to be considered one of the "big ones," while piling on incessantly with new "works" that rehash the same tired minimalist tropes, which have all been explored by far more competent composers such as Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich. I am not surprised to read these glowing revi…

Is your goal with this comment to encourage people to give Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich a try, or is to try to convince others how much better at listening to music you are than them? For anyone else who likes Glass's piano work, you might like some pieces by Yann Tiersen or Erik Satie.

That's a strange dichotomy of choices. Another post in this thread backs up entirely my point that this is music to be played in the background, not thoroughly consumed and heard. [0]

> I think to this day its great background music for programming work

This article was nothing more than sponsored content for a contemporary artist who already has all of the success, publicity, and fandom he could ever need. By leveling him to a tier much closer to reality, and throwing out the names of much more accomplished and more musically-important 20th century composers, I hope to provide a counter-point to The Guardian, which is neither an authority on music nor the broader culture.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345602

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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I miss the documentary about Glass that used to be available on streaming. It's one of the few discs I plan to actually buy.

I don't understand the business model of small films that withdraw from streaming completely, especially documentaries. Surely that can't be more profitable? I think about this question a lot while going through the dreck on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I think about all that work and knowledge and art just going silent and no one ever finding it or watching it again.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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post #20

No, Philip Glass's problem is that he believes he writes symphonies. He's the Donald Trump of the classical music world - trying desperately to be considered one of the "big ones," while piling on incessantly with new "works" that rehash the same tired minimalist tropes, which have all been explored by far more competent composers such as Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich. I am not surprised to read these glowing revi…

I'm very interested in what minimalist tropes you would say Berio and Feldman explored in any of their work.

Feldman's second string quartet (https://youtu.be/QPMUHVza-KA) is very long, has lots of repetition, with occasional pulsating rhythms/drone notes. I quite like it when I'm in the mood. There's a lot in it, but it's so slowly developed so slowly moment to moment it has characteristics of minimalism.

This short article covers some of his work including the second quartet from this perspective in slightly more detail: https://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/17/arts/music-where-minimal-...

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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post #23

No, Philip Glass's problem is that he believes he writes symphonies. He's the Donald Trump of the classical music world - trying desperately to be considered one of the "big ones," while piling on incessantly with new "works" that rehash the same tired minimalist tropes, which have all been explored by far more competent composers such as Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich. I am not surprised to read these glowing revi…

Criticizing the work is one thing. Trying to bully people for finding beauty where you can't is kinda childish.

Many people do not realize that they do not "listen" to music. They simply put it on for background ambiance, to do other things. And before anyone feels further offended, please see this [0] post from 30 minutes ago on HN that completely proves my point made in the previous post.

> I think to this day its great background music for programming work

Philip Glass wrote his music to be heard in the concert hall. Very few people responding to this article have ever heard any of his works performed live. If people were to actually sit there and listen to his music as intended, the reaction to my post would be very different.

Sitting still and listening carefully is a dying practice. I would challenge anyone reading this to seriously ponder, "when was the last time I sat in silence and intently listened to a long-form musical work?"

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25345602

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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I make electronic music. 7 years ago, in a very sad period of my life, I made a classical piece of music, (From midnight to 4am) which I am very proud of it today. It would make me really happy to get some feedback from you guys if you know a thing or two about music. It tells a very personal story and here is the link to it:

https://soundcloud.com/bitmarx/story-of-a-rexile

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very interested in what minimalist tropes you would say Berio and Feldman explored in any of their work.

Feldman's second string quartet ( https://youtu.be/QPMUHVza-KA ) is very long, has lots of repetition, with occasional pulsating rhythms/drone notes. I quite like it when I'm in the mood. There's a lot in it, but it's so slowly developed so slowly moment to moment it has characteristics of minimalism. This short article covers some of his work including the second quartet from this perspective in slightly more detail…

Indeed, much of Feldman's late period fits this description. I would also recommend Piano and String Quartet [0] [1] from Feldman as an extreme example of his interests in minimalism.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_and_String_Quartet_(Feld...

[1] https://vimeo.com/231496382

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