Did Apple really remap white with macOS Catalina on Macbook Pros, and no one noticed? For some reason, I find that hard to believe. But it also makes me believe in the vertical integration powers of Apple: just think about this trickery on Windows!
Apple’s “Extended Dynamic Range” Brings HDR to Non-HDR Displays
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#22When still talking about mixed SDR+HDR content on a HDR display having differently mapped whites, the article says: > it’s strange and new, and possibly unique to Apple. But that is exactly how Windows 10 does it with HDR displays, too. So not really unique to Apple. To the article's benefit, it did say "possibly" :) I'm using Win 10 myself with an HDR display, and HDR white appears brighter than "desktop" white just…
apple uses this technique on non-HDR displays tho.
The "non-HDR" displays are actually high-quality, wide gamut displays. They may not have been certified for HDR when they were made, but it's quite likely to be HDR400 capable.
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#23Did Apple really remap white with macOS Catalina on Macbook Pros, and no one noticed? For some reason, I find that hard to believe. But it also makes me believe in the vertical integration powers of Apple: just think about this trickery on Windows!
No need to "think" about this on Windows - Windows calls this "Windows HD Color" and it's right there in settings as well. For awhile now.
(If HDR display is connected, that option is replaced with a HDR on/off switch.)
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#24I think I must be some weird outlier on HDR. I recently upgraded to a display that supports it, and when I turn it on, everything just looks darker to me. As though the brightness went to half at the same time that contrast was cranked up high. Playing with color and exposure and other settings just made things worse.
It sounds like your display is not really HDR but is just advertised it.
Monitors that are IPS (i.e. most monitors) with HDR are more mostly fake.
If you want real HDR600, try the Samsung Odyssey G7; but even that does not have full-array local dimming (which you'd expect to spend $2k for).
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#25> The company, long known for shipping high quality, color-accurate displays, This is simply not true; a lie. Everyone in Hollywood and the professional print world who needed color-accurate displays that could be calibrated were using HP Dreamcolor Displays or similar products from companies like BenQ ( For example: https://nofilmschool.com/2017/12/benq-sw271-color-management... ) No movie studio does professional c…
The scope here is consumer products.
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#26I just tested the sample file provided in the article at my Macbook with QuickTime, IIAN, and VLC. I can confirm the result in the article but it is Quick Time only. Colors in IIAN and VLC are not as bright as in the QuickTime.
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#27Does anyone have a sample photo with brighter-than-white whites that isn’t behind a registration wall?
Sure, here are some from my HDR Dell monitor:
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#28> This EDR display philosophy is so important to Apple that they are willing to spend battery life on it. When you map “white” down to gray, you have to drive the LED backlight brighter for the same perceived screen brightness, using more power. Apple has your laptop doing this all the time, on the off chance that some HDR pixels come along to occupy that headroom. This is a bit misleading. The backlight isn’t at a h…
Thank you. When I initially came to that paragraph, I went from being super impressed to being super concerned. Now I'm soundly back to impressed!
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#29I’ve had the XDR Pro Display since June, and use it primarily for dev. I just trusted Apple in their focus on this direction. Suffice it to say I am very happy with it.
What I like about conclusions of this piece is it points to how strategic Apple is thinking in its leverage due to the breadth of distribution of advanced hardware and software.
Apple is able to set entire new standards of expectation for customers that are _very_ hard for competitors to follow.
While competitors fixate on some single feature like night photo quality, Apple is also subtly chipping away at something like this.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
apple uses this technique on non-HDR displays tho.
The "non-HDR" displays are actually high-quality, wide gamut displays. They may not have been certified for HDR when they were made, but it's quite likely to be HDR400 capable.
As far as I'm aware, Apple hasn't released a display on any device with less than 400 nits brightness in years. So HDR400 capability would at least make some sense at a surface level.