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Cold showers, warm milk and zero screen time right before bed. Thought of just mentioning it, dunno if it might help you in particular.
Is there a study showing that cold shower before bed helps sleep? Thanks
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As an old guy with insomnia who freaks out seeing these headlines on the hacker news, I’d like to thank you sincerely. This shit is scary at my age.
Do ketogenic/low inflammatory diet + Ayahuasca ceremonies to open up heart/mind.
Or decrease cognitive decline?
What does an open heart/mind mean in this context?
Re: Poor Sleep Linked with Future Amyloid-β Build Up
#23Great, another thing insomniacs can lie awake worried about!
You joke, but my mum's mind has died from Alzheimer's and I'm literally having anxiety attacks induced from that leaving me to extremely poor sleep patterns. Her father had Alzheimer's (undiagnosed AFAIK), and my mum had poor sleep patterns for sure (though not as bad as mine are, I think). If there's truth in this then somewhat ironically, yes, there's a perpetuation there. Sorry, to bring the town down.
Really sorry to hear about your Mother.
Re: Poor Sleep Linked with Future Amyloid-β Build Up
#24People will be tempted to infer causation here, but it's important to note that no evidence of causation is presented. It is most likely that some third condition causes both poor sleep and amyloid-b accumulation (since correlation usually doesn't indicate causation).
[1] https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-oxford-handbook-...
Re: Poor Sleep Linked with Future Amyloid-β Build Up
#25Great, another thing insomniacs can lie awake worried about!
You joke, but my mum's mind has died from Alzheimer's and I'm literally having anxiety attacks induced from that leaving me to extremely poor sleep patterns. Her father had Alzheimer's (undiagnosed AFAIK), and my mum had poor sleep patterns for sure (though not as bad as mine are, I think). If there's truth in this then somewhat ironically, yes, there's a perpetuation there. Sorry, to bring the town down.
I also read that Keto diet has solid scientific evidence of preventing Alzheimer's fyi
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As an old guy with insomnia who freaks out seeing these headlines on the hacker news, I’d like to thank you sincerely. This shit is scary at my age.
Cold showers, warm milk and zero screen time right before bed. Thought of just mentioning it, dunno if it might help you in particular.
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Yeah, but that's true with all long term nutrition and lifestyle studies, since it's impossible to test for causation with any degree of rigor (I don't even know what a long term double blind study would look like). So, yes, correlation does not imply causation; it does still imply correlation. Even if a third variable, if you're getting poor sleep, you're more likely to have higher Amyloid-β build up
establishing causation is not impossible, just hard.
Even when it's something there isn't as big an ethical issue for it's usually not single blinded, let alone double. Diet, for instance; the groups know what they're eating. Did the differences happen because of the different diet, or because of something else (such as increased energy leading to more exercise, or the perception that they were eating 'healthy' lead to them actually becoming so, or picking up other healthy habits? Etc).
As I said, establishing causation -with any degree of rigor-, is basically impossible. Otherwise we're just left with "hey, a whole buncha correlative studies indicate this, so, maybe take it as true?"
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an old guy with insomnia who freaks out seeing these headlines on the hacker news, I’d like to thank you sincerely. This shit is scary at my age.
Cold showers, warm milk and zero screen time right before bed. Thought of just mentioning it, dunno if it might help you in particular.
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"It is most likely that ..." I agree with your main point and was going to write something like this. But "most likely" is likely unjustified. It could be a 3rd factor that causes both, but its likelihood is unknown.
https://www.gwern.net/Causality Correlation usually does not indicate causation. I.e. more than 50% of the time, correlative relationships in studies do not indicate causal ones. Taking that as a prior, and lacking any evidence to the contrary, it is indeed correct to say "it is most likely that ...".
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an old guy with insomnia who freaks out seeing these headlines on the hacker news, I’d like to thank you sincerely. This shit is scary at my age.
Cold showers, warm milk and zero screen time right before bed. Thought of just mentioning it, dunno if it might help you in particular.