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Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

Would you pay a small amount for those ads?

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

Would you pay a small amount for those ads?

Why would I pay for targeted ads? You mean because I find them useful? I assume they're more useful to the advertisers than to me. I am willing to not get paid by them since I find them useful.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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post #10

I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

Thanks for the perspective. I was an early Instagram user, but deleted my account not so long after they introduced stories.

Recently, I registered a new account, and after a grace period without ads, I was surprised by just how drenched it has become in advertising. I used it to follow professional athletes. First of, many of the organic posts are themselves sponsored advertising, then the athletes share brand posts from their sponsors, and then between every story you get an actual ad.

Of course, with more personal connections the trade of might be different, but for my use case described above Instagram seemed unsustainable.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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Facebook's concept of informed consent is a cynical joke, and we can only laud companies and governments that rein in on their bordeline-illegal practices. I've recently signed up for Facebook to use Wit.ai, and have gone through account settings to lock down the account as much as possible. It took me about an hour to set everything to private in this new account, and I'm still not sure what would happen if I start…

Careful. I opened a Facebook account to help my wife with administering FB ads for her business. Everything was fine, until I went through and locked down my privacy settings, and within 24 hours my account got suspended.I had to provide a phone number to unlock my account. Within a day or two it got suspended again. This time I had to upload a photo to unlock it. The cynic in me believes that this was just so that t…

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Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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post #10

I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

I get another popup in Facebook that only has an opt-in no opt out.

I've screenshottet it and it might very well become my second actual gdpr complaint.

My first was a few days ago when "HP smart" demanded with no workaround that I hand over my email address to print on my own old printer.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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Facebook's concept of informed consent is a cynical joke, and we can only laud companies and governments that rein in on their bordeline-illegal practices. I've recently signed up for Facebook to use Wit.ai, and have gone through account settings to lock down the account as much as possible. It took me about an hour to set everything to private in this new account, and I'm still not sure what would happen if I start…

Facebook's take on privacy is also a joke. "Privacy" according to them is privacy from other users, but the concept of privacy from Facebook itself doesn't exist.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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post #10

I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

Thanks for the perspective. I was an early Instagram user, but deleted my account not so long after they introduced stories. Recently, I registered a new account, and after a grace period without ads, I was surprised by just how drenched it has become in advertising. I used it to follow professional athletes. First of, many of the organic posts are themselves sponsored advertising, then the athletes share brand posts…

> but for my use case described above Instagram seemed unsustainable.

Which part?

Another interpretation is, professional athletes don't really enrich your life at all. You have as big a problem with celebrity as you do with a piece of software.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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post #10

I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

Are you ok? I’ve never heard any anyone this thrilled about an ad experience in my life.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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post #10

I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting. But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok…

"made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting"

Interestingly, that's precisely the reason I hate targeted ads. They just make me buy more things I didn't otherwise need.

I see your main point though, it's nice to give the choice.

Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints

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I don’t think Facebook has really any ground to stand on when the choice is being given to the user. AdTech has been saying forever that “people want personalized ads” to justify data collection. If they’re right then obviously there’s nothing to worry about.

Most annoyingly I actually thought I wanted personalized ads, but after giving Google the benefit of doubt for years after the DoubleClick acquisition it is clear to me they are hopeless: the ads mostly aren't targeted to me in any meaningful way.

Facebook on the other hand manages to get my attention with products that matches my interests and budget (software products, photography products etc. I even ended up buying a safety razor that I am very happy with and wouldn't have though about without seeing that ad.)

The irony is that Google should know quite a bit more about me than Facebook does but have been too busy showing me annoying or even insulting ads during the same time.

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