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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by xbar »

Torkel wrote: post #18

The amount of publicity this generated for youtube-dl is astounding... I would love for this to be a ”the plan to get rid of youtube-dl backfired badly for RIAA” ending. But I guess RIAA is reviled enough already so nothing they do really matters. So I suppose the hope is that some political will to change the laws around this arises from it.

True. It seems we need to wait for a generation of media-consuming legislators to age into the Senate to get past The Eagles complaining that their music is being "pirated" on Tik Tok.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by detaro »

boogies wrote: post #19
jrochkind1 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have trouble believing gitlab would just ignore a DMCA takedown request? This is what people believe? This is something gitlab has said? Actually, I guess I'm not sure of the consequences to a company of ignoring DMCA takedown requests (whether or not they are US companies; but Gitlab is now btw), but I assume they are not good, or why do companies bother complying? Rather than assume, I should look into it. But ye…

gitlab.com? No. https://youtube-dl.org/ ’s host? That’s almost exactly what they did. (Edit: here’s my comment on a story that details their response somewhat: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909982 ).

The webhost had a different situation: neither code nor binaries were hosted with them. Although DMCA specifically doesn't apply to a German hoster of course, and uberspace is run by the kinds of people that'd probably try and take this to court instead of just rolling over.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by b0afc375b5 »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #14
boogies wrote: post #8

Great, now they can import the issues to a GitLab/Gitea instance hosted by the same Germans who refused to ever take down youtube-dl.org, and a few other places for redundancy, and not have to go through all this excess stress again.

I have trouble believing gitlab would just ignore a DMCA takedown request? This is what people believe? This is something gitlab has said? Actually, I guess I'm not sure of the consequences to a company of ignoring DMCA takedown requests (whether or not they are US companies; but Gitlab is now btw), but I assume they are not good, or why do companies bother complying? Rather than assume, I should look into it. But ye…

I think he's referring to a self hosted gitlab instance, not gitlab.com

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by bigbubba »

crumbshot wrote: post #15
envy2 wrote: post #3

Excellent. Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change, which I assume helped get this restored: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...

And not even purged from the repo, it's still in the history if needed. Seems like the copyright holders making a big fuss over nothing really.

I wonder if RIAA lawyers believe themselves productive members of society, or if they recognize themselves as the parasites they are.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by saynay »

crumbshot wrote: post #15
envy2 wrote: post #3

Excellent. Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change, which I assume helped get this restored: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...

And not even purged from the repo, it's still in the history if needed. Seems like the copyright holders making a big fuss over nothing really.

I have become convinced that the RIAA lawyers emerge from their crypts every few years, generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by tantalor »

chongli wrote: post #13
gbl08ma wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't work like that since certain videos use obfuscation methods that random cat videos don't.

I was under the impression that those obfuscation methods were exclusive to certain YouTube partners, including the RIAA members. If youtube-dl stopped supporting that method, it would still be a useful tool for the bulk of its use cases and the RIAA would no longer have any leg to stand on since it'd no longer be able to download their members' videos.

There's no need to keep that code in the main yt-dl codebase if it is for special cases.

You could imagine a siloed yt-dl plugin called crack-riaa with separate tests, hosting, etc.

If yt-dl detects the obfuscation, it could fail with an error message point to the plugin's documentation.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by bigbubba »

detaro wrote: post #22
boogies wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gitlab.com? No. https://youtube-dl.org/ ’s host? That’s almost exactly what they did. (Edit: here’s my comment on a story that details their response somewhat: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909982 ).

The webhost had a different situation: neither code nor binaries were hosted with them. Although DMCA specifically doesn't apply to a German hoster of course, and uberspace is run by the kinds of people that'd probably try and take this to court instead of just rolling over.

I don't follow, a few days ago I downloaded the tarball of the code and 'binary' (it's a Python script) from their website. Both seemed to be hosted there.

https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl-2020.11.1...

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