Now we should call this usability problem "Why [even] Osammy Can't Encrypt"
Osama bin Laden raid yields trove of (not encrypted?) computer data.
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#22"One of the choppers developed a mechanical problem that caused it to lose lift[...] When he couldn’t get the bird airborne again, the SEALs blew it up and left in one of the reserves."
What the hell? Is this Battlefield 2 or a multi-million dollar piece of hardware?
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rubber hose crypto doesn't work on corpses. I was actually quite surprised that they didn't try/manage to get more people alive...
They were more concerned about keeping the American operators alive. When you're going after a zealous nutjob who welcomes death and seeks only to take as many others as possible with him, capture becomes significantly more dangerous than killing. The SEALs were mostly likely briefed that they were to attempt capture but not to endanger any of their team members for that purpose. The reports I read stated that he was…
> When you're going after a zealous nutjob who welcomes death and seeks only to take as many others as possible with him, ...
What you say is 100% true, but if history is any guide, zealous nutjob LEADERS have their MINIONS take as many with THEM as they can. The leaders, oddly, need to stay and suffer on this mortal plane.
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#24"One of the choppers developed a mechanical problem that caused it to lose lift[...] When he couldn’t get the bird airborne again, the SEALs blew it up and left in one of the reserves." What the hell? Is this Battlefield 2 or a multi-million dollar piece of hardware?
Was that area considered hostile territory? (I honestly don't know.) Maybe the Pakistanis said they couldn't help, so they blew it up to keep anything from getting into foreign hands?
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rubber hose crypto doesn't work on corpses. I was actually quite surprised that they didn't try/manage to get more people alive...
They were more concerned about keeping the American operators alive. When you're going after a zealous nutjob who welcomes death and seeks only to take as many others as possible with him, capture becomes significantly more dangerous than killing. The SEALs were mostly likely briefed that they were to attempt capture but not to endanger any of their team members for that purpose. The reports I read stated that he was…
> Since UBL was holding an AK and a human shield at the time,
Was it Osama using the woman? I read it was "one of the fighters", but not Osama himself.
(pause)
Most news outlets now are reporting that the woman may have been simply in the line of fire, and not being used as a shield for anyone. We may never know.
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#26The amazing part to me is that the reports say there was no internet connectivity and no phone lines running into the compound. Did they have an internal network? Or, were these all just stand-alone computers where they kept notes?
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
They were more concerned about keeping the American operators alive. When you're going after a zealous nutjob who welcomes death and seeks only to take as many others as possible with him, capture becomes significantly more dangerous than killing. The SEALs were mostly likely briefed that they were to attempt capture but not to endanger any of their team members for that purpose. The reports I read stated that he was…
> When you're going after a zealous nutjob who welcomes death and seeks only to take as many others as possible with him, ... What you say is 100% true, but if history is any guide, zealous nutjob LEADERS have their MINIONS take as many with THEM as they can. The leaders, oddly, need to stay and suffer on this mortal plane.
This has happened, but Osama - who clearly was a capable and inspiring man - sacrificed a life of mostly carefree luxury for caves, manhunts, etc. I'm not saying he was not crazy or entirely free of being corrupted by his position, but it seems likely that he actually believed what he said he believed - and even if he didn't go out and blow himself up, he was probably aware of the likely consequences of his actions. (Evading capture in Afghanistan was quite a feat/lucky.)
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#28"One of the choppers developed a mechanical problem that caused it to lose lift[...] When he couldn’t get the bird airborne again, the SEALs blew it up and left in one of the reserves." What the hell? Is this Battlefield 2 or a multi-million dollar piece of hardware?
Was that area considered hostile territory? (I honestly don't know.) Maybe the Pakistanis said they couldn't help, so they blew it up to keep anything from getting into foreign hands?
They landed in the compound where the fighting took place, and that's where the helo went down. There's no point in letting the enemy being able to strip down / repair one of your aircraft and use it against you.