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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by snorremd »

BRedSox wrote: post #6

Honest question, how is this legal? It looks as if there is the ability to share your music online. Can someone explain the difference between this and say Napster, Limewire, Kaza, etc? Rather than storing it locally, it’s just online... or am I missing something here?

As others have said. There is nothing inherently illegal about the software. As long as you are licensed to share the music you host in the instance there is nothing illegal going on.

Though the RIAA might see it differently, as they have with other open-source software in the past (ref the recent DMCA takedown requests of youtube-dl GitHub repositories). They might argue the software is designed for copyright infringement and as such should be blocked.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by feanaro »

BRedSox wrote: post #18
feanaro wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand your confusion. Are you under the impression that the very act of sharing music online is illegal?

Yes, maybe that’s where my confusion sits. If I take a bunch of music and put together a playlist and post it on, say YouTube or my own site, that is perfectly fine?

This depends on both the music in question and your jurisdiction. There is nothing inherent about "music" that makes it illegal to share it with others. Is it Taylor Swift or something your friend recorded? It makes a big difference.

This is a tool to satisfy the use case of sharing music with others. Sometimes such sharing will be illegal, but at other times it won't.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by monokh »

JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

A free, decentralised and open network with an enforced code of conduct? I cannot reconcile these 2 concepts.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by Asooka »

BRedSox wrote: post #13
JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

> We have an ethical responsibility to refuse to work on software that will negatively impact the well-being of other people. Such as creating a platform for people to listen to music for free by sharing it with others without paying the artist?

You can also say it benefits the artist because it makes it easier to listen to them, which incentivises people to give them money to support them. This is more or less the entire model of Bandcamp.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by cousin_it »

JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

Yeah, I don't like it. It says making wrong jokes is an offense. On the plus side, it doesn't yet say that failure to report someone else for making wrong jokes is an offense.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by Munksgaard »

monokh wrote: post #23
JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

A free, decentralised and open network with an enforced code of conduct? I cannot reconcile these 2 concepts.

I'm guessing the code of conduct primarily concerns the software development process?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by BRedSox »

feanaro wrote: post #22
BRedSox wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, maybe that’s where my confusion sits. If I take a bunch of music and put together a playlist and post it on, say YouTube or my own site, that is perfectly fine?

This depends on both the music in question and your jurisdiction. There is nothing inherent about "music" that makes it illegal to share it with others. Is it Taylor Swift or something your friend recorded? It makes a big difference. This is a tool to satisfy the use case of sharing music with others. Sometimes such sharing will be illegal, but at other times it won't.

Couldn’t the same be said for youtube-dl? Again, I don’t know.. just curious.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by disruptalot »

JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

> Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences.

> Gracefully accepting constructive feedback.

> Showing empathy and kindness towards other community members.

Yada yada, seemingly inclusive and tolerant then goes on to add a catch all list where every possible action can be deemed unacceptable, getting you expelled everywhere and "identification of the participant as a harasser to other members or the general public."

Anti meritocracy is a cover for the most intolerant.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

How ironic that this statement of inclusivity is preceded with this one:

>We're sorry but funkwhale.audio doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled. Please enable it to continue.

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