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If the Deep State exists in the sense this conspiracy theorist believes it does, I guess it doesn't matter where we live, does it? The CIA bogeyman will get you anyway ;)

Some fun tips from this video:

* He completely misunderstands the information that came from the "Pennsylvania legislature." It came from the Republican caucus. And specifically, it was spearheaded by a member of the caucus that essentially has no political cachet in the state. He can do what he wants, it's a free country, but everyone knows he's a nutter and his belief in a conspiracy theory is about a surprising as somebody reporting the sky is blue on a clear day. He also completely misunderstands what's going to happen in Pennsylvania, because that Republican caucus doesn't have the political power to block either certification or the slate of electors in the electoral college. And it's all irrelevant because deadlock in the electoral college would result in a president Pelosi, as per the House nuclear option mentioned in the last video I cited.

* The "pigtail lady" is the scandal du jour. It hasn't been presented in a court of law, and the simplest explanation for what the video shows is that nobody attempted to hide it (she didn't change her hair or top) because it was business as usual. I've worked elections, and I haven't seen anything in that video that looked out of sorts. When conspiracy theorists go looking for irregularities, they always find them. But that's more a psychological function of people finding what they're looking for than any particular changes in reality.

* The law is a little unclear, but what Michael Flynn has done is probably actually sedition. It also ought not to be illegal. I don't think it's illegal. But Flynn is by no means the good guy in this story; he is openly calling for an illegal overthrow of the Constitutionally-mandated electoral process via the military. Right or wrong, that's fundamentally the end of American democracy were it to occur. If he wants to put himself on the side with people who have tried to overthrow America with military might, from Aaron Burr through Robert E. Lee onwards, that's his choice, and if he ever makes good on his threats, the US military is more than willing to remind him what happens to traitors.

Anyway, this whole video is classic conspiracy theory claptrap, from the need to imagine a conspiracy so vast that it encompasses all possible counterindications to the need to invent an enemy the conspiracy is happening on behalf of (looks like he's dragged the old communist fear out of the woodwork and repurposed it for China; that's a fun one that Americans are fond of). Nothing in here is convincing unless you already believe the conspiracy theory, and then it's just reinforcing delusion.

I plan to live in the US for the next 25 years, for what it's worth. ;)

Praying Medic misunderstands Bush v Gore. SCOTUS took the extraordinary step in that ruling of declaring the circumstances so unique that the case should not be cited as common-law precedent. Anyone citing it has to explain why the Court should disregard SCOTUS's own guidance not to cite it. Even if they do, its particulars don't generally apply to the cases the Trump campaign is bringing (https://theconversation.com/trumps-pennsylvania-lawsuits-inv...).

Imposing martial law would simply be the death of American democracy, not some master chess move.

I don't dispute the President could try.

I doubt it would succeed (if it came down to it, plenty of generals see him as a tyrant and would follow their oath to uphold the Constitution, not a President in breach of his oath), and it renders all this discussion irrelevant because it's a suspension of Constitutional law.

But it proves nothing. We'd just be another nation where a tyrant tried military force to keep his power illegitimately. Sowing doubt in the legitimate process to justify a power grab is right out of the playbook.

It's sad that you're falling for it, but there were suckers who supported Hitler too. Every modern dictator claims they're upholding the will of the people. Every modern dictator drums up a secret conspiracy opposed to the people to justify their extraordinary measures.

It wouldn't be the first time a population is gripped by a conspiracy theory explaining their woes with fantasy instead of fact. Again, Germany before World War II.

That doesn't make it right or just, and if it happens, the people that history will recognize as the freedom fighters will be ones who take up arms against it.

I don't see it as guaranteed as you seem to, possibly because I'm not watching conspiracy theorists at the level you seem to be. In the real world, while it's illegal to say so because military law prevents denigrating the commander-in-chief, 2/3 of the military hates Trump's guts and will not follow his orders if he tells them to turn guns on citizens nationwide. And were it to happen, the military at the federal level would be fighting the various national guards, because there's no way governors of most states will cede that power.

> It's only a conspiracy theory until proven

Conspiracy theories are never proven, that's what makes them conspiracy theories. They make wrong predictions and then move the goal posts when those predictions don't come to fruition. in this case, it's the same conspiracy that believed there was a pedophilia ring operating out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement.

I'll be interested, academically, to see how QAnon moves the goal posts yet again when the Supreme Court refrains from hearing the petitions to throw out Pennsylvania votes.

""" But there is no evidence to suggest that any theft of voter registration data could’ve had an impact on the election in Arizona. It’s possible to simply buy voter data from Maricopa County, costing as little as $328 for 1 million or more records. The systems used to count votes in Maricopa County were not affected. And despite fears of foreign interference and voter fraud, the DHS’ Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) has stated the 2020 election was the “most secure in American history.” """

The story appears to degrade the stolen election conspiracy theory, not reinforce it.

To be clear, what they have to convince the state legislatures to do is throw out the votes of the states. That doesn't impact only the Presidential election; it takes votes away from legislators that picked up votes on split tickets and disrupts every other race that was run in November.

That's a short trip to never being reelected again, so it's a tall order. One state legislature might be stupid enough to do it. Two is staggeringly unlikely. The margin of victory is too high for it to matter if one does.

I don't know what evidence the link you just provided is supposed to be in this situation; True The Vote fails to indicate why the company in question isn't supposed to have access to that file. And given TTV's history, I don't assume that they know one way or the other.