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Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by mildlyclassic »

hobofan wrote: post #20
londons_explore wrote: post #12

This whole thing looks like more of a university project than a serious attempt at deploying connectivity... I'm going to take a guess that $20k will never be returning to the 'investors'.

I'm also really curious how much of real "ownership" there is to the PoPs, especially given the unaddressed comments in one of their previous threads about foreign ownership of Indian ISPs. A lot of the language on their website seems very reminiscent of the one used by many cryptocurrency projects.

We're a YC company registered in the US with an India subsidiary. We're also a fully licensed telecom holder. The ownership agreement is super clear, if you'd like, please drop us a line on the site and we'd be happy to share them with you.

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by Inhibit »

mildlyclassic wrote: post #11
dtwest wrote: post #9

Is it really $200k in sales if the people that are buying are guaranteed a rate of return? When I looked at the site a month ago it looked like these PoPs were being marketed as an investment. Given the capped upside, it looked as if the buyers were not buying equity, instead providing more of a loan with an expectation of getting their money back and more. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a very cool project. I j…

That's a great question. You're right, It's a commercial agreement, not equity. We think it counts as a sale, but I'm totally open to a more appropriate term.

"Investment capital"

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by garganzol »

3% is good but fairly common conversion rate for an ad. Not really groundbreaking nor newsworthy.

But why it's on HN then? The answer - you are the product and HN is a marketplace. This makes HN kind of spoiled place to be at, as it amplifies the illusion of "good things" you "must have" or "participate in".

I really miss the golden era of BYTE magazine in the 80s. That was a classy act. But what we have now is a noisy reactor, where nearly everything is worthless but fuels illusion and false hopes. We give in without even considering an evident fact that we are being manipulated for cheap.

Yes, I may sound too dark, but then let's not call HN "a community". This a commercial enterprise with its own interests under the hood. Not the neutral place for intellectual discussions as it tries to appear.

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by NiceWayToDoIT »

mildlyclassic wrote: post #14
NiceWayToDoIT wrote: post #8

Nice. I have few technical questions if you do not mind: How strong are those lasers how many watts? What is wave length and what is optical spread over distance? Lastly, how does system handle flock of birds or any other optical barrier?

40W typical usage. Wavelength 1535nm - 1565. Birds haven't been much of an issue in our testing over the last 12 months.

So, 1500nm is infrared range and 40W quite serious output I guess at the close range can be a quite dangerous...

For instance this is 500mW laser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuceDT2R4f4

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by mildlyclassic »

NiceWayToDoIT wrote: post #24
mildlyclassic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

40W typical usage. Wavelength 1535nm - 1565. Birds haven't been much of an issue in our testing over the last 12 months.

So, 1500nm is infrared range and 40W quite serious output I guess at the close range can be a quite dangerous... For instance this is 500mW laser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuceDT2R4f4

It's a class 1M laser and a 100% eye safe. We've had it thoroughly tested and certified.

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by sgt »

mildlyclassic wrote: post #7
TuringNYC wrote: post #3

Firstly, this is an awesome project, congratulations! (You'd be surprised, this is even a problem in parts of the US once you leave the metro areas.) I was curious about a couple of things: - You list some sophisticated machinery -- did you run into permit/regulatory challenges around running all this? - Did you get challenged by incumbents, even if they weren't providing service in your specific locale?

OP here. Thanks for the questions! We are a licensed ISP so we've got the regulatory aspect covered pretty well. The best part of our laser system is that it uses so called 'free space' which doesn't require government approval. We're confident in our superior technology and lower costs when competing with telcos and ISPs.

The laser system made me wonder. How does it handle fog and mist, and what would happen if a flock of birds would fly past?

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by marban »

garganzol wrote: post #23

3% is good but fairly common conversion rate for an ad. Not really groundbreaking nor newsworthy. But why it's on HN then? The answer - you are the product and HN is a marketplace. This makes HN kind of spoiled place to be at, as it amplifies the illusion of "good things" you "must have" or "participate in". I really miss the golden era of BYTE magazine in the 80s. That was a classy act. But what we have now is a noi…

I hope you've never visited Producthunt ;) Clap

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by galaxyLogic »

garganzol wrote: post #23

3% is good but fairly common conversion rate for an ad. Not really groundbreaking nor newsworthy. But why it's on HN then? The answer - you are the product and HN is a marketplace. This makes HN kind of spoiled place to be at, as it amplifies the illusion of "good things" you "must have" or "participate in". I really miss the golden era of BYTE magazine in the 80s. That was a classy act. But what we have now is a noi…

How does HN make money?

Re: $200k in sales from a $6k advertisement

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Post by perspicace »

garganzol wrote: post #23

3% is good but fairly common conversion rate for an ad. Not really groundbreaking nor newsworthy. But why it's on HN then? The answer - you are the product and HN is a marketplace. This makes HN kind of spoiled place to be at, as it amplifies the illusion of "good things" you "must have" or "participate in". I really miss the golden era of BYTE magazine in the 80s. That was a classy act. But what we have now is a noi…

Smartest comment I’ve read in a while.
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