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Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

Definitely worth it. Two reasons: first, you can use it using your muscle memory (think vim), and second: it's fast. Many people nowadays are used to this (usually) slight lag in whatever you do via the web interfaces, but using something that reacts immediately is much nicer, at least to me.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

How about for the xoauth imap connection stuff gmail requires?

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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this one is very welcome:

> If you sometimes forget a pattern modifier, you can type Tab after the ~ to get a list of pattern modifiers.

these are useful to quickly filter for a string in the From: or any other header field

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

I also have fond memories of mutt, and some of my coworkers still use it on our IMAP server. I've vacillated over the years between mutt, Thunderbird, and Gmail depending on the company and capabilities. Recently I've played with using Outlook desktop (after a week or two with Outlook for the web) because of better teams and meetings integration (it's an ISP, we have our own HA dovecot cluster and an exchange system for employees, but we can get mail in either reliability with some procmail and exchange rules). The only thing Outlook has over Thunderbird or mutt are the aforementioned exchange integrations, buttery smooth cursor movement (it had been so long since I used MS Word I forgot about that, and it's nice), and the ability to set conditional rules to not just set color on messages in a folder, but font and font size. Having unread items not just a different color but bold and bigger is pretty cool. Not sure how mutt would support that, but I think some newer terms might open up the capability...

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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post #23
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Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

How about for the xoauth imap connection stuff gmail requires?

Getmail supports oauth.

I use these tools for email: Getmail -> sortmail -> mutt

Getmail just gets the email (pop or imap). sortmail is an MDA I wrote to replace procmail. It basically just filters emails into maildir folders. Mutt to read and respond to the emails.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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post #20

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

> The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. These are web apps? You should be able to have CLI-work style and still browse the web. Use something like Vimium for Firefox and a WM.

It sounds ('CLI-only') like GP I was trying to exclusively use Lynx or similar, no GUI at all, browser or otherwise.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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This is awesome! Mutt holds a very special place in my heart, even though I haven't used it in like a decade. I did use it for a very long time, and it was fantastic! Well into the 2000s I had UUCP delivering email to postfix on my laptop, read and sent using mutt. UUCP was extremely capable for handling e-mail on a laptop, whether disconnected because I was traveling and on a CDMA connection, on a spotty wireless, or at the coffee shop.

I have kind of given up on e-mail... I don't even check it daily for work, and a few times a week personally. I use gmail because they do a really good job of spam filtering and I don't have to deal with infrastructure.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

I you revisit, be sure to check out notmuch as the search backend. It is super fast and has a nice and powerful search syntax. [1] https://notmuchmail.org/notmuch-mutt/

how is the folder handling with notmuch in mutt?

i use sup (which is where notmuch came from) because it provides on-the-fly virtual folders where emails match a search query or a tag. i can also open multiple folders at once and switch between them without loosing state. it's been a while, but when i last used mutt it could not do that

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