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I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by handmodel »

dgritsko wrote: post #3

A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

Very cool - but in a lot of ways I think that if you believed in the system of Karma then it worked?

You posted a high quality post (being first) and assume if you wrote the script you also took time to write an accurate title.

While it is arbitrary and noise you beat out those you posted 30 seconds ahead of - the same hours a bunch of people posted home videos, self-promotion, or old clips and didn't get any karma.

It is imperfect but the karma system had some desired effect.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by Der_Einzige »

2 things

1. Why was this formed as classification instead of as regression? Seems much more like a regression problem (predict how many upvotes you will get given a reddit post)

2. Seems like it could have been effective with better pre-training. I'd love to see the author rerun the experiments with the likes of GPT-2 or other pre-trained models vectorizing the text first.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by grawprog »

dgritsko wrote: post #3

A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

>But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points.

I have to say, do people really take karma, upvotes, credit, fake internet points etc. As a measure of trustworthiness? I know reddit pushes this idea but do people actually participating in communities with point systems see those with high karma points or whatever as trustworthy?

Personally, i've always assumed people with high amounts of karma or stars are just people who've spent a significant amount of their lives on a site and participated a lot.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by devteambravo »

grawprog wrote: post #23
dgritsko wrote: post #3

A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

>But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points. I have to say, do people really take karma, upvotes, credit, fake internet points etc. As a measure of trustworthiness? I know reddit pushes this idea but do people actually participating in communities with point systems se…

You'd be surprised. Even if you're aware of it, you may start noticing a post you like made be a high-karma person. Confirmation bia sets in, and very soon, your subconscious is engaged. This stuff was build that way by design.

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Post by elliotbnvl »

minimaxir wrote: post #16

This is a reminder that account karma on Reddit and Hacker News doesn't really mean anything and doesn't make your posts more valuable, or give it any additional benefit in the algorithms. (I say that as someone with 153k Reddit karma and a user ranked #57 on the HN leaderboards: https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders ) Going truly viral on Reddit/HN is still ultimately random as well, which is why reposting (within re…

Username checks out.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by cjohnson318 »

tlarkworthy wrote: post #2

The fact that a ton of AI work was beaten by a flash of inspiration just goes to show how far behind AI is over the human brain. But excitingly, it also suggests a crazy future where machine can actually do that.

I don't think that a current limitation is an indicator of future success. I think a more likely future is one governed by diminishing returns, and prohibitively large computation.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by scollet »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #7
dgritsko wrote: post #3

A couple of years back, it was announced that the trailer for one of the new Star Wars movies would debut during halftime of Monday Night Football. There's always a rush to post stuff like links to new movie trailers "first" on Reddit, so as to get the most fake internet points. I guessed that the trailer would probably get added to the Star Wars YouTube page at around the same time it aired on TV, so I wrote a scrip…

> But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points. More than fake internet points, it's a distilled popularity contest, and we know popular people isn't necessarily trustworthy. Reddit calling it karma gives it more credit than it deserves.

I wonder how many people are popular among the automated audience.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by grawprog »

devteambravo wrote: post #24
grawprog wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>But it did make me think about just how easy it is to farm karma on Reddit, and how useless it is as a proxy for "trust" or "reputation" or anything other than what it is - fake internet points. I have to say, do people really take karma, upvotes, credit, fake internet points etc. As a measure of trustworthiness? I know reddit pushes this idea but do people actually participating in communities with point systems se…

You'd be surprised. Even if you're aware of it, you may start noticing a post you like made be a high-karma person. Confirmation bia sets in, and very soon, your subconscious is engaged. This stuff was build that way by design.

I dunno, I usually go out of my way to avoid looking at people's scores on places like that. Even my own if I can help it. HN is hard, it's right in the corner there, but I really don't tend to look at anyone else's scores. Same with reddit or other sites I use with those systems.

Don't get me wrong, I get the little dopamine rush and enjoy getting points and stuff, but I look at the whole thing the same way as a high score board on a video game or something.

Re: I got 10k post karma on Reddit with (and without) fast.ai

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Post by jungletime »

As someone that got a photo of a grizzly in the wild. It was surprisingly easy. Here's how you can do it too. For probably under 1k.

1. Fly out to Anchorage, Alaska

2. Drive to Denali visitor center, (Denali State Park)

3. Take the Bus to Denali (~$50)

You are almost guaranteed to see a wild grizzlies along the way. The bus will stop so you can take a photo. You can even get off and go for a hike if you like. They will pick you up on the way back. (or whats left of you...) If you decide not to, thats okay too. You will have many near death experiences, as your school bus drives along a dirt road along steeped cliff mountain edges, for many miles. The bus takes you to heart of Denali, where you can see Mount Mckinley (Highest mountain in North America), and where temperatures can dip to minus 60 degrees in winter.

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