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Post by bigwavedave »

davidhyde wrote: post #19

Are writers being encouraged to write “Zoom call” instead of “Video call” in their write ups? I know that it has nothing to do with the article, I’m just interested to know if anyone else had noticed. > “No. It was India that took the initiative to bring it to the ICAO assembly,” said Captain Enrique Valdes on a Zoom call from the US.

I can't speak for anyone else, but since we use zoom at work, my younger siblings use it for class, and my family uses it to keep in touch every few weeks, we usually say "zoom call" or "let's hop on a zoom" (which sounds like a drug euphemism, now that I think about it) unless it's explicitly different like FaceTime. In fact, I don't think we say "video call" really at all, we just use the name of the service as a verb.

But YMMV, I can only speak from anecdata.

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Post by luminati »

ignoramous wrote: post #13
pugworthy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your background? This is some pretty scathing commentary. If you're from India, I can find it interesting. If you're not, then some of your comments come off as a bit xenophobic towards India.

Yes, I'm from India. Other such scathing commentary, if you're up for it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20497465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16302042

This is a textbook display of virtue signaling amongst the English speaking elite of India.

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Post by dmurray »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #18
LandR wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this change if you look at it on number of trips? If I get in a plane, I'm probably going hundreds or thousands of miles. But in a car it might be only a few miles. If I flew everywhere I would go by car, is it still safer?

Wikipedia gives 22 deaths per million flights for 2002 to 2011, while england and wales have about 5 traffic deaths per day and about 15 million people commuting daily by car. The car numbers are very rough, but flying will stay at least one order of magnitude more dangerous than driving by this measure, which makes sense: large heights are dangerous.

Also, "if you flew everywhere you would go by car", you wouldn't feasibly be flying in airliners for 5-mile trips, but in helicopters or GA craft, which are statistically way more dangerous.

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Post by davidhyde »

bigwavedave wrote: post #21
davidhyde wrote: post #19

Are writers being encouraged to write “Zoom call” instead of “Video call” in their write ups? I know that it has nothing to do with the article, I’m just interested to know if anyone else had noticed. > “No. It was India that took the initiative to bring it to the ICAO assembly,” said Captain Enrique Valdes on a Zoom call from the US.

I can't speak for anyone else, but since we use zoom at work, my younger siblings use it for class, and my family uses it to keep in touch every few weeks, we usually say "zoom call" or "let's hop on a zoom" (which sounds like a drug euphemism, now that I think about it) unless it's explicitly different like FaceTime. In fact, I don't think we say "video call" really at all, we just use the name of the service as a v…

I guess it’s the equivalent of saying that you will Skype someone back when that was a thing.

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Post by ignoramous »

luminati wrote: post #22
ignoramous wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I'm from India. Other such scathing commentary, if you're up for it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20497465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16302042

This is a textbook display of virtue signaling amongst the English speaking elite of India.

Virtue signaling or not, if you think I am elite just because I speak English, you don't know India enough. But sure, feel free to judge away.

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Post by koheripbal »

thamer wrote: post #6

> According to one estimate, for every 1 billion passenger miles travelled by car, 7.2 people die; by plane, it's 0.07 people. Interesting to read concrete numbers for this comparison. It's well-known that air travel is much safer than cars per mile, but I didn't realize it was over 100 times safer. I'd be curious to know what this number is for fully self-driving cars once they start being used for the commercial tr…

If you measure by distance traveled, flying is safer. ...but if you measure by time traveling, driving is safer.

Source: http://www.meretrix.com/~harry/flying/notes/safetyvsdriving....

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Post by remram »

chongli wrote: post #9
remram wrote: post #7

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A plane is also much faster than a car, so the same comparison in terms of hours instead of miles would probably add a couple orders of magnitude.

It’s also higher variance. When a plane goes down, it’s often the case that everyone on board dies. Traffic collisions can sometimes lead to multi-vehicle pileups but they’re unlikely to cause hundreds of deaths all at once like a plane crash.

I don't know if I would refer to that as "variance" in the safety. A person can only die once, which puts a hard upper-bound on that.

Variance in the death rate of events, maybe.

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