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How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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Hard to say they're innovative when Samsung has produced folding phones before them. Similarly, bezelless display was just following Huawei and Samsung. In fact, many of their so called new and innovative features have appeared in android phones earlier, but Apple markets them better. Apple is efficient at money making. If I were to profile a company for innovation, I would profile Nintendo. They have consistently dared to create new types of gaming consoles. No generation is similar to the previous one.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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iMessage is a true marketing innovation in America, where the only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. It restricts communication and makes life more difficult for everyone who doesn't have an iPhone, which in turn increases iPhone sales. Meanwhile, while holding basically infinite money, they pretend some patent troll is holding them back from making it cross-platform. Pure genius.

> and (barely usable) SMS What's the issue with SMS in the US? At least in Australia, SMS is no hindrance to messaging between Android and iOS apart from the colour of the bubbles.

Most likely the missing "chat" features that people have become used to (reactions, read notifications, "currently typing", threads).

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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post #12

iMessage is a true marketing innovation in America, where the only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. It restricts communication and makes life more difficult for everyone who doesn't have an iPhone, which in turn increases iPhone sales. Meanwhile, while holding basically infinite money, they pretend some patent troll is holding them back from making it cross-platform. Pure genius.

I use WhatsApp and Signal to communicate with people on an iPhone in the US all the time. How have I ever been restricted?

I do know that MMS is garbage, and that the mobile networks used to price gouge people for using MMS, and on top of that it doesn’t work many times, or at least it didn’t use to.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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post #22

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> and (barely usable) SMS What's the issue with SMS in the US? At least in Australia, SMS is no hindrance to messaging between Android and iOS apart from the colour of the bubbles.

Most likely the missing "chat" features that people have become used to (reactions, read notifications, "currently typing", threads).

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Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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post #12

iMessage is a true marketing innovation in America, where the only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. It restricts communication and makes life more difficult for everyone who doesn't have an iPhone, which in turn increases iPhone sales. Meanwhile, while holding basically infinite money, they pretend some patent troll is holding them back from making it cross-platform. Pure genius.

I use WhatsApp and Signal to communicate with people on an iPhone in the US all the time. How have I ever been restricted? I do know that MMS is garbage, and that the mobile networks used to price gouge people for using MMS, and on top of that it doesn’t work many times, or at least it didn’t use to.

That's why he pointed out that it is marketing.

Because people believe you need to have iMessage.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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> and (barely usable) SMS What's the issue with SMS in the US? At least in Australia, SMS is no hindrance to messaging between Android and iOS apart from the colour of the bubbles.

You never know if SMS actually arrived. Sure, it probably did. But sometimes, it didn’t. And you won’t know.

Is that a common thing? IME they do always arrive unless the recipient has a habit of leaving their phone turned off for weeks.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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post #20
post #12

iMessage is a true marketing innovation in America, where the only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. It restricts communication and makes life more difficult for everyone who doesn't have an iPhone, which in turn increases iPhone sales. Meanwhile, while holding basically infinite money, they pretend some patent troll is holding them back from making it cross-platform. Pure genius.

> only "alternatives" are Facebook and (barely usable) SMS. Why don't Americans use Telegram?

For me there are two basic reasons: 1) everyone I know is on iMessage, 2) iMessage does everything I require of a messaging app. Honest question and not trying to be hostile, why should I prefer telegram? What am I missing?

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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I use WhatsApp and Signal to communicate with people on an iPhone in the US all the time. How have I ever been restricted? I do know that MMS is garbage, and that the mobile networks used to price gouge people for using MMS, and on top of that it doesn’t work many times, or at least it didn’t use to.

That's why he pointed out that it is marketing. Because people believe you need to have iMessage.

Source? I've never see an Apple advertisement that would lead me to believe I can't use WhatsApp or Signal or any other messaging application.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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post #18

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> and (barely usable) SMS What's the issue with SMS in the US? At least in Australia, SMS is no hindrance to messaging between Android and iOS apart from the colour of the bubbles.

The colour of the bubbles is a brilliant marketing play. People put peer pressure [1] on each other to “upgrade” their bubbles from the ugly green to the cool blue by buying an iPhone. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18624681/apple-imessage-a...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it’s not just marketing: in the US, the green bubbles are sold by your carrier to marketing firms, while blue bubbles are opaque to your carrier.

Re: How Apple Is Organized for Innovation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use WhatsApp and Signal to communicate with people on an iPhone in the US all the time. How have I ever been restricted? I do know that MMS is garbage, and that the mobile networks used to price gouge people for using MMS, and on top of that it doesn’t work many times, or at least it didn’t use to.

That's why he pointed out that it is marketing. Because people believe you need to have iMessage.

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