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Thanks. That would indicate roughly 2 months or so...
I use youtube-dl fairly infrequently... maybe once a month or so. Nearly every time I used it it would not download the video I wanted - so I'd do a "youtube-dl -u", then it would work. Just spreading the repo around isn't going to help for very long.
I made a read-only backup on IPFS in the likely case it gets DMCA'd. git clone https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmVJ6BtoavbWRJwWH8JmTd5Bf6i3zEzsecnBKTM...
Does it includes issues and open PRs? I think this is the most concerning part about Github: when you move somewhere else you lose important parts of the history of the project (that document known bugs, how features came to be, etc), unless you specifically step up and use some import tool. There are Git-backed distributed issue trackers like Git-bug https://github.com/MichaelMure/git-bug (and probably other tools)…
There is a Github bridge that will import the issues (including the complete history). PRs are not supported yet though.
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China has extremely strict anti-scraping laws [1] so pointing out that youtube-dl is a tool that can be used to illegally scrape copyrighted data is likely to have the same effect as a DMCA takedown request with the same justification. [1] a collection of cases: https://github.com/HiddenStrawberry/Crawler_Illegal_Cases_In...
> China has extremely strict anti-scraping laws It might be the case, but the repo you linked doesn't support that claim very well, and the cases cited are largely irrelevant to the case at hand. "Forbidden area #1: providing scraping-related services to criminal organizations". Three cases listed. The first is one programmer's personal account of being arrested, which is very scant on why; the only info I can glean:…
> it's highly unlikely anyone will bother to target some high-barrier-of-entry tool mostly facilitating the download of otherwise public videos
It's true that any particular violation is unlikely to be prosecuted because there are so many, but youtube-dl is already being targeted, so if it stays up on Gitee (or Gitlab, for that matter), then only because RIAA doesn't file a complaint.
Gitlab is not immune to DMCA notices either since it's a US company. The RIAA probably won't try to take it down unless the youtube-dl development is actually relocated there or they become aware of it somehow. You'd have to host it in a country where DMCA can safely be ignored (anonymously of course), e.g. the Netherlands or Russia, if you want it to stay up reliably.
So true. But to me as a long time Gitlab fan this shows the power of using Gitlab. Because if they were using Gitlab when the DMCA hits they could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance. While Github would have to export things into another format. I'm sure people have worked on exporting data from Github to Gitlab but it seems much easier to just use Gitlab. Edit: And of course besides data, you can't mig…
Not sure if I would do that. Wouldn't that make me directly a target for the companies issuing the DMCA?
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> China has extremely strict anti-scraping laws It might be the case, but the repo you linked doesn't support that claim very well, and the cases cited are largely irrelevant to the case at hand. "Forbidden area #1: providing scraping-related services to criminal organizations". Three cases listed. The first is one programmer's personal account of being arrested, which is very scant on why; the only info I can glean:…
#1 is relevant, because the developers of scraping services themselves were held liable for the use of their tools for illegal purposes. As you say, there are many small-time copyright infringers (a.k.a. criminal organizations), some of which probably use youtube-dl to circumvent anti-scraping measures (analogous to the CAPTCHA bypass case). > it's highly unlikely anyone will bother to target some high-barrier-of-ent…
> only because RIAA doesn't file a complaint
Pretty sure RIAA/MPAA aren’t targeting China (yet), it’s still a bittorrenting Wild West according to my Chinese sources. They’ll need lawyers specialized in Chinese law and be prepared to navigate a foreign legal system if they want to look that way, frivolous DMCA takedowns that they file hundreds a day won’t do.
The power of a legal threat lies in the fact that there could be follow-up legal action; it’s toothless if no legal action could follow.
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So true. But to me as a long time Gitlab fan this shows the power of using Gitlab. Because if they were using Gitlab when the DMCA hits they could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance. While Github would have to export things into another format. I'm sure people have worked on exporting data from Github to Gitlab but it seems much easier to just use Gitlab. Edit: And of course besides data, you can't mig…
> could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance Not sure if I would do that. Wouldn't that make me directly a target for the companies issuing the DMCA?
Yes, if you host this anywhere without safe harbour protection you're going to get the DMCA takedown directly
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So true. But to me as a long time Gitlab fan this shows the power of using Gitlab. Because if they were using Gitlab when the DMCA hits they could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance. While Github would have to export things into another format. I'm sure people have worked on exporting data from Github to Gitlab but it seems much easier to just use Gitlab. Edit: And of course besides data, you can't mig…
> could have easily migrated to their own Gitlab instance Not sure if I would do that. Wouldn't that make me directly a target for the companies issuing the DMCA?
Gitlab is not immune to DMCA notices either since it's a US company. The RIAA probably won't try to take it down unless the youtube-dl development is actually relocated there or they become aware of it somehow. You'd have to host it in a country where DMCA can safely be ignored (anonymously of course), e.g. the Netherlands or Russia, if you want it to stay up reliably.
Gitee.com is a popular Chinese alternative. I'm pretty sure it'd be safe there.