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Re: Pixar's Library

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Post by mmcconnell1618 »

dpcan wrote: post #3

Hair rendering always blew my mind. I remember seeing Monster's Inc in the theater, and the first shot of Sully was when he was asleep in his bed breathing heavily, and you could see the individual strands of hair on his arm flowing back and forth. I felt the world of animation change right at that moment for me, and now I wait with great anticipation for every new Pixar film that comes out. For me, "Up" was the only…

I can forgive anything else in "Up" simply because of Doug the dog. They also managed to keep the "Alpha" dog voice under wraps until it hit theaters.

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Post by protomyth »

migpwr wrote: post #6
rhizome wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed a kind of arms-race in most of the Pixar/Dreamworks movies I've seen (not nearly all), where in the first 5 or 10 minutes there will always be some new technique being foregrounded. Sully's hair is a great example, they lay the new tech out right away both as a "we're cool" (in a positive sense!) signal to other animators and as a far point of expectations for the animation to the rubes like me. "If this…

I have the image of the injured bird in "Up" limping along burned in my memory. I actually thought the scene was a little mature for the kids watching the movie, so I agree with you about them convincingly conveying emotion.

The first 20 minutes of Up are a little mature for very young audiences. I remember thinking "This better get happier right quick".

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Post by DrStalker »

rhizome wrote: post #13
asolove wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Early animated movies mostly did well, and resonated with people, because of excellent voice acting from recognizable actors. (Think Toy Story.) Up's gambit is to show that well-orchestrated music and animation can surpass that. It isn't technically superior, but it is far more important.

I think what "Up" succeeded was even more significant than that: they took animation into the affective territory of live-action movies. Frankly, I don't even really remember the voices. Making cartoons (which I sincerely believe 3D has been) has been one-upmanship of technology that pretty much builds its own history in lockstep, but to combine that with writing and the animation choices for something that can bring…

Up also made excellent use of 3D to add to the emotional feeling; the way they handled "depth" in the sad introduction was different to the way they did it in the fun scenese or action scenes.

It was subtle, but it was there.

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Post by ssharp »

protomyth wrote: post #22
migpwr wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the image of the injured bird in "Up" limping along burned in my memory. I actually thought the scene was a little mature for the kids watching the movie, so I agree with you about them convincingly conveying emotion.

The first 20 minutes of Up are a little mature for very young audiences. I remember thinking "This better get happier right quick".

I remember seeing it in the theater w/ family and my (then) four year-old niece saying "this movie is really sad". The first 20 minutes are about how the old man lost his best friend and wife and is left all alone.

It wasn't sad in the same sense that Toy Story 3 was sad, because I don't think little kids can really relate to Toy Story 3 story like adults can. Kids could realize, at least on some level, the loss felt by the old guy in Up.

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Post by JabavuAdams »

SandB0x wrote: post #17

If you like this you should check out Ron Fedkiw's research at Stanford and with ILM: http://physbam.stanford.edu/~fedkiw/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Fedkiw The images on his page link to videos, publications list is about 3/4 of the way down.

Tried to code up one of the hair papers. Realized I need to math up.

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Post by JabavuAdams »

mmcconnell1618 wrote: post #21
dpcan wrote: post #3

Hair rendering always blew my mind. I remember seeing Monster's Inc in the theater, and the first shot of Sully was when he was asleep in his bed breathing heavily, and you could see the individual strands of hair on his arm flowing back and forth. I felt the world of animation change right at that moment for me, and now I wait with great anticipation for every new Pixar film that comes out. For me, "Up" was the only…

I can forgive anything else in "Up" simply because of Doug the dog. They also managed to keep the "Alpha" dog voice under wraps until it hit theaters.

I don't understand why they did that. I hated that voice. Is it an in-joke or something?

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Post by Tiomaidh »

Ruudjah wrote: post #25

Please use [PDF] when linking to paper oriented documents, so we can skip those links, tnx.

I'd always thought [PDF] was a warning about a direct link to a PDF--some people don't like having PDFs download or open without warning.

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Post by apl »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #27
SandB0x wrote: post #17

If you like this you should check out Ron Fedkiw's research at Stanford and with ILM: http://physbam.stanford.edu/~fedkiw/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Fedkiw The images on his page link to videos, publications list is about 3/4 of the way down.

Tried to code up one of the hair papers. Realized I need to math up.

Never been great at keeping correlation and causation separate, but maybe you should muscle up instead?

http://physbam.stanford.edu/~fedkiw/photos/bodybuilding_arms...

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