Looks like a blatant copy of the light. https://www.thelightphone.com
If the operating system is open and they release an SDK, that will be a big improvement over the lightphone.
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#22I still don't get it. If you wanna do digital detox and still need a phone, get an used Motorola F3. - It can't do more than talk and same very bare texting (Mudita already got a calendar, something that wants to get your attention and don't get me started on that mediation timer) - costs almost nothing (Mudita Pure costs >300) - flat and small, therefore easy to put away in any bag or pouch and forget - doesn't has…
Sort of off-topic, but for digital detox I've found that a phone that doesn't at least support WhatsApp, Signal, and a few other Android apps would be useless as a phone for me. I can't remember the last time I've used my phone for something that doesn't involve data, so I would rather detox temporarily with no phone at all. In case anyone has any suggestions: For a more sustainable long-term detox to avoid extensive…
Maybe check out some of the older devices that are available with the /e/ OS? (de-googled android) https://esolutions.shop/
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing has Bluetooth though. I'm seriously considering getting one to see if I can get scuttlebutt running on it :D That would be a realnice fit actually. Mostly disconnected, synced with other devices when physically close, private messages end to end encrypted, and the full OS/app stack being built to not be attention-hogging. :P
What is scuttlebutt?
Rumours.
Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS
#24I wonder if this OS could be ported to run on other e-ink devices like this one: https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/kingrow-k1-e-ink-androi...
Poor software support is a big stumbling block for these devices.
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#25No internet. No internet?! If I can't check my whatsapp/Telegram messages on a phone, I might as well go without a phone - none of my friends are going to send me an SMS/a regular phone call. No internet is a bad idea.
It’s not ‘no internet’, it has 4G connectivity, and you can use it as an external modem. It’s just that they haven’t built it into the OS by default.
Personally my thoughts were more along the lines of: That’s a cool phone, but thank god the OS is open source so someone can add the connected apps we need.
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#26pricing it at 300+ is insane.
Not given their target market. The price is less of an objection than the lack of functionality.
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#27I still don't get it. If you wanna do digital detox and still need a phone, get an used Motorola F3. - It can't do more than talk and same very bare texting (Mudita already got a calendar, something that wants to get your attention and don't get me started on that mediation timer) - costs almost nothing (Mudita Pure costs >300) - flat and small, therefore easy to put away in any bag or pouch and forget - doesn't has…
Sort of off-topic, but for digital detox I've found that a phone that doesn't at least support WhatsApp, Signal, and a few other Android apps would be useless as a phone for me. I can't remember the last time I've used my phone for something that doesn't involve data, so I would rather detox temporarily with no phone at all. In case anyone has any suggestions: For a more sustainable long-term detox to avoid extensive…
I would be perfectly happy with this mind of phone if it did support whatsapp and Line. Those are the only applications I use to message anyway. Even better if all the protocols are connected into a single application that just does ‘messaging’.
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#28I'm old enough to remember when announcements of new OSs centered on how it implemented multitasking, how it managed memory and how the filesystem worked.
The announcement focuses on an app and barely touched what's under it.
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#29I don't think going back to SMS and GSM based phone calls is really a viable option. They are just too insecure. You can say a lot of things about mobile internet, but at least it made end-to-end encrypted communication the norm.
This idea is common but a strange one at least to me. Going back to GSM would of course be a regression due to their repeatedly broken crypto, but modern LTE networks have many desirable properties absent from Internet-based messaging.
Perhaps it matters less to a US user, but as a European the fact an intra-country communication need not traverse any border nor be observable by any non-domestic entity is a huge deal for me, due to much stronger data protection laws in these parts covering both message content and metadata
Then there is the trustworthiness of the communication medium itself. WhatsApp is being advocated in this thread, but WhatsApp is a massive chunk of unaudited code running on your handset that is published by an advertising company, code that by design steals your phonebook without telling you every time you run it. At least in the UK, telecom providers generally act for the most part as commodity infrastructure, we don't seem to have quite as many scummy behaviours as are reported in the US. Both approaches require a central counterparty with either absolute trust to protect your cleartext message in transit, or provide otherwise unaudited code claiming to protect the same.
The bottom line for me is probably who gets to keep the metadata, a US advertising company or a local telco. I am certainly happier with the latter.
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#30That would be nice if this can be ported to other eReaders like the Kindle and Kobo.