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Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

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In case you don't wish to scroll through all the TC comments, this might be pertinent:

"I’m the Zlio.com CEO. If you are one of the sued companies (like us), please contact me by email: channel at berrebi.org.

We need to discuss together"

# The above is not from me, just quoted from the TC comments!

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

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Have you been served yet? You will want a lawyer right away, since the time allowed to respond starts ticking at service. Where are you incorporated, if at all? If you are not incorporated in Delaware, do you have customers in Delaware? If not, did you advertise for customers in Delaware? I read the filing. The person that filed it is really stretching to get Delaware as the place for all the suits. I don't think tha…

I got a "courtesy copy" of the complaint this morning (via overnight Fedex). Does that count as service?

I'm not incorporated and haven't thought about Delaware in particular as a place to advertise Voo2do. There are certainly Voo2do users in Delaware (and in most other places in the world).

The only income I've received to date from Voo2do has been donations from people who found it useful. If you consider the cost of the hosting, Voo2do has been a net money loser for me for many years. But it's led to a lot of other great contacts and given me a lot of satisfaction from helping other people.

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

#23
If the concept of a letter sent to Santa Claus via your parents doesn't provide sufficient obviousness for the whole concept (and if you can't get Amazon into the discussion), then work with your lawyers to seek out (older) Santa Claus web sites, or older wedding registry web sites.

This looks like potential Prior Art:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011129215921/http://bridalregis...

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

#24
That's one of the reasons why I wouldn't move to the US and start a business. I think a software company really have only two choices.

1. Ignore patents completely and hope for the best.

or

2. Have trouble sleeping, knowing that you might have to spend a large amount of money on a lawsuit that you will probably win anyway.

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

#25
Sorry to hear this. Though I've never used voo2do extensively, it seemed pretty decent. Anyways, see if you can all get together and get the EFF guys involved. Check http://w2.eff.org/patent/ and http://w2.eff.org/patent/wp.php for more info on this.

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

#26
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A patent is much more valuable if it's upheld in court. I thought that was the idea behind patent trolling: get a bullshit patent, go after a bunch of little guys, try some kind of divide and conquer strategy with them, hope you win and get your bullshit patent upheld. Your patent is now much stronger and more dangerous. Congratulations, you're a litigious douchebag.

I just hope to high heaven that we see more responses like the following: http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-str...

His response makes me want to get a law degree.

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

#27
post #24

That's one of the reasons why I wouldn't move to the US and start a business. I think a software company really have only two choices. 1. Ignore patents completely and hope for the best. or 2. Have trouble sleeping, knowing that you might have to spend a large amount of money on a lawsuit that you will probably win anyway.

IANAL but i think non-US startups are also targets for patent lawsuits if they have US users. And many startups have little chance of success if they have to stop serving US users.

Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

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post #8
post #2

Ask YC subtopic: Have you ever been the target of a frivolous IP lawsuit? How do you deal with it?

Shimon, sorry to hear this. As soon as you find a good lawyer, I wouldn't worry about it psychologically. This "patent" is total bullshit; the absence of big players such as eBay and Amazon leads me to believe that they are going after easier targets in order to establish a legal precedence so that they may go after the big guys later. You're also in good company. I would take pride in that at the very least.

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Re: I just got sued for patent infringement for operating the voo2do.com todo list

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post #15

I was relieved to see this in the comments... "Michael Arrington - July 17th, 2008 at 2:33 am PDT I think literacy needs to become a requirement to get a job at the PTO. Morons."

Well that would rule out Arrington from working there...

(Sorry, I could not resist)

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