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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

throwawa3495 wrote: post #14

weird that there is actually no mention of these materials being hacked from anywhere though, or did I miss that? It seems like this computer shop fellow voluntarily gave over this hard drive only after the computer in question became his property (as a result of someone not collecting the computer and not paying the bill) LOL now this post has been flagged wtfff

It's worth noting that HN flags are user-sourced, so unlike on Twitter that doesn't necessarily reflect administrators stepping in to kill the discussion.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by Plough_Jogger »

the_only_law wrote: post #16

Interestingly they failed to stop discussion of it from becoming a top trending item.

Also interesting that they provided a dedicated summary of the topic for the related trending hashtag https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HunterBiden&src=trend_click&...

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by Hamuko »

throwawa3495 wrote: post #20
rmrfstar wrote: post #13

Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

Is it? Because the factuality of the story seems like a pretty big deal here. If it's completely bogus, how is it different from any of those Russian trollfarm posts that the US government was worried about?

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by Barrin92 »

throwawa3495 wrote: post #20
rmrfstar wrote: post #13

Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

Twitter is perfectly within their rights to remove content they consider to be spam or not fit quality guidelines as is the case here.

Not really sure since when Twitter is required to host and aid in the spread of garbage

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by bgorman »

The fact that this article is flagged is alarming. This is a relevant news story directly related to how technology companies influence public perception.

Like it or not, the New York Post is a widely distributed newspaper in the US.

Once the precedent for censoring a newspaper has been established there is nothing stopping facebook for censoring more "upscale" conservative newspapers like the WaLl Street Journal or the Financial Times.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by rmrfstar »

throwawa3495 wrote: post #20
rmrfstar wrote: post #13

Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

Both are relevant, and both are concerning.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by benmmurphy »

rmrfstar wrote: post #13

Robert Graham [1] pointed out that if the emails are authentic, they can be trivially verified via DKIM. That the email metadata was not released implies the emails are either inauthentic, or that the post did not contact someone with basic competence in computer forensics. Either possibility seriously undercuts the article's credibility. [1] https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/1316407424648179717

It wouldn’t prove they were authentic. It would just prove they were sent through gmail’s servers. If you trusted gmail then it would prove the username, time and content was legitimate.

All it looks like to me is some Russian username. I don’t see how it ties to a real person. I haven’t read the article so maybe the post explains that bit.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by ojnabieoot »

benmmurphy wrote: post #17

I think it is crazy that twitter has gone down this path. Being the arbiter of truth makes their job much harder and doesn’t seem to have a big upside. If they have an agenda they want to push the upside might be there but otherwise it’s just a perpetual shitshow.

I mean, their previous path was "it's fine for us to profit handsomely from dishonest propaganda since we're not personally responsible for it, even if that propaganda gets implicated in the theft of an election or a genocide campaign." This turns out to have its own issues! And it's not specifically about a leftist/progressive agenda: it is plain unethical to profit off propaganda which you know to be deceitful and dangerous, regardless of what political intent.

While it is true that Twitter has cracked the whip against the right far more than the left since they started regulation of misinformation, this is reflective of Twitter being unbiased - the problem is the 21st-century Western right.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by throwawa3495 »

Barrin92 wrote: post #24
throwawa3495 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's honestly irrelevant about the credibility of the emails and other data at this point, its the blanket censorship of this article that's now the real story.

Twitter is perfectly within their rights to remove content they consider to be spam or not fit quality guidelines as is the case here. Not really sure since when Twitter is required to host and aid in the spread of garbage

Oh, i definitely agree that as a private company Twitter is well within its rights to censor what it believes is "misinformation" but an important line has been crossed today by Twitter and Facebook.

A story about potential corruption of a candidate for the US president has been censored by two of the largest information brokers in the world. Also interestingly, no denial from Joe Biden about the authenticity of these emails. Wouldnt that be the first thing you'd do if this wasnt true? lol

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Post by throwawa3495 »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #21
throwawa3495 wrote: post #14

weird that there is actually no mention of these materials being hacked from anywhere though, or did I miss that? It seems like this computer shop fellow voluntarily gave over this hard drive only after the computer in question became his property (as a result of someone not collecting the computer and not paying the bill) LOL now this post has been flagged wtfff

It's worth noting that HN flags are user-sourced, so unlike on Twitter that doesn't necessarily reflect administrators stepping in to kill the discussion.

yes fair, was only suggesting that this controversy kind of feeds on itself and will keep growing.
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