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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by goda90 » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:26 AM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

I'm looking forward to the dish washing robot to be invented. Something that can actually scrub a dish, not just spray it. Combine it with an automatic cabinet so you don't even need to unload it.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by Xcelerate » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:26 AM UTC

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents.

Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparently, this is a rather common problem, with hundreds of posts scattered across the internet where people with the same problem unsuccessfully try dozens of home remedies that fail to fix the issue. I never remember wet dog smell from the older units so I can only assume this results from some sort of energy saving feature that backfired.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by willbw » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:27 AM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

If you cook for 4+ people they are super useful. It's not just the time saving, you also can just eat your meal and relax for the rest of the evening, compared to having to wash stuff up - even for a small time.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by elteto » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:29 AM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

> ... is pretty easy

It's not that it is complicated, it's the amount of it. Your threshold may vary, but I find that with 3+ adults, or 2 adults and children (one or more) then I prefer the dishwasher.

To me a dishwasher is the equivalent of asynchronous execution: load it up, start it and come back a few hours later to clean and dry dishes. In the meantime I keep on doing whatever else I need to do, which is something probably more important than doing dishes.

Another thing that helps is having extra dishes and silverware. That way I keep on loading during the day and turn it on only once before going to bed (pots and pans that are not solid metal we still have to do by hand though).

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by paxys » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:29 AM UTC

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #5

microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

I think the calculus changes when more than one person eating is involved, especially when the ratio skews more eating than washing

I live alone, and still find the dishwasher to be the most useful appliance in my house. I cook a lot, and love not having to think about how many pots/pans/dishes I'll use and how I have to scrub them later. I don't do any prewash either. Everything goes straight into the dishwasher and comes out sparkling every time. Maybe I'm just really lucky with my machine/detergent.

It's also great because I don't need extra space for a drying rack.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by nradov » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:33 AM UTC

redmorphium wrote: post #12

microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

a lot of people tend to think you need to pre-rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. no, you don't: in fact, this can remove the substrate that's needed for the detergent to be most effective. most of my dishes, which I have a lot of: finish eating/drinking, straight in, no sink stage.

Somehow I've never been able to convince my wife to stop pre-rinsing.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by unnouinceput » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:35 AM UTC

obilgic wrote: post #13

Site doesn't even scroll on Chrome

If you need a divine sign to switch to Firefox I think that was it. I did it 2 years ago, never had any issues.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by aidenn0 » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:35 AM UTC

Scoundreller wrote: post #20

I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. I want separate dirty and clean units. I’m tired of using the sink or shelves as a buffer. Just pull from the clean unit and push into the dirty unit and rotate which is which. Voilà, dramatically less handling.

Commercial units have racks that are separate, you stack the racks when done and they can dry and be stored.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by neckardt » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:36 AM UTC

Scoundreller wrote: post #20

I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. I want separate dirty and clean units. I’m tired of using the sink or shelves as a buffer. Just pull from the clean unit and push into the dirty unit and rotate which is which. Voilà, dramatically less handling.

> I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher.

Have you considered buying two dish washers? I don't think this needs an invention.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by unnouinceput » Wed, Oct 07, 2020, 2:37 AM UTC

A socialite I can get behind. Imagine modern socialites doing the same!! Like, for example, Paris Hilton to invent cool new tech stuff instead of being famous for "one night in Paris".