I'd be interested in the templating stuff as a jQuery plug-in. As it is, knockout.js is a lot less violent for someone working with an existing application.
Sproutcore 1.5 released
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Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
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Backbone.js ( http://documentcloud.github.com/backbone/ ) is a great alternative to SproutCore if you're turned off by the gem install.
We've also created a build of SproutCore that fits into a single, http://amber-todos.strobeapp.com/ (demo) https://github.com/wycats/experimental-amber-todos (source)
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Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
#23Leaving out screenshots or a demo of the new theme was definitely an oversight on our part. Sorry! I've put up a build of our sample controls app that demonstrates the new controls: http://samplecontrols.strobeapp.com/
Scrolling the scroll views in this demo is unusably slow on my macbook pro (Safari 5, OS X 10.6).
Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
#24I'm sure it's got its merits but the Sproutcore site does a horrible job explaining what it excels at. For example, on the Demos and Sample Code page it has me install a ruby gem. http://www.sproutcore.com/demos/ What the hell? You lost my interest at ruby and the command line.
for a bunch of hackers on hacker news, there's an awful lot of prissy "ew, might get my hands dirty" feedback going on here sorry, but it's been a long day and I'm sick to the back teeth of people bitching about other people's hard work because it's not exactly to their liking
You're right. I didn't intend on coming off bitchy but can see how my choice of words made it seem so.
Anyways, my point is just that the team ought to work on their message to potential users of their library. It's a small price to pay to reap the rewards of their hard work.
Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
#25We're seriously considering sproutcore for our next web project. Personally I'm a little uneasy about investing so completely. I mean it's nothing like jQuery or other libraries where you just sprinkle it here and there, it's an entire development methodology. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Would be really great to see some feedback from other users.
With the release of Amber you'll be able to sprinkle in only the view layer, or only the core if you see fit. So it'll be less of an investment.
However personally I think the other stuff that is in there is pretty slick as well. The data bindings are pretty handy.
Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
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I would encourage you to make that a priority. Every time I see something about SproutCore, I'm interested but end up not doing anything with it. I keep hearing about the demos being out of date. Things like this: "we have a great new default theme called Ace 2.0" Sounds great, how about a screenshot or two, if not a demo? And this: "looks at home on ... mobile operating systems" More info please? I'm interested but…
Fair points all around; I agree wholeheartedly. Here's what the problem has been thus far: do we focus on making the framework better, or do we focus on selling it? Personally, I'm much more comfortable with making sure we deliver the goods before we try to sell it. That's what SproutCore 1.5 is about. This is the first smoke signal of where we want to head with the framework, and people can take that for what it is.…
Couldn't agree more Colin, let us (the community of people building apps with it) continue to do the evangelizing, your team has been doing a great job and we appreciate it a lot.
Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
#27We're seriously considering sproutcore for our next web project. Personally I'm a little uneasy about investing so completely. I mean it's nothing like jQuery or other libraries where you just sprinkle it here and there, it's an entire development methodology. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Would be really great to see some feedback from other users.
With the release of Amber you'll be able to sprinkle in only the view layer, or only the core if you see fit. So it'll be less of an investment. However personally I think the other stuff that is in there is pretty slick as well. The data bindings are pretty handy.
Yeah, my boss is really sold on it. I think I'll come round to it once I start playing with it. Interesting to hear about amber though, thanks!
Re: Sproutcore 1.5 released
#28Leaving out screenshots or a demo of the new theme was definitely an oversight on our part. Sorry! I've put up a build of our sample controls app that demonstrates the new controls: http://samplecontrols.strobeapp.com/
I browsed the buttons demo for a while, then went to "Panels" demo. The combo box worked fine at first, but after I opened an alert box and closed it, the combo box does not work properly any more. The combo box popup does not appear in the place it should be.
Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/EgRNJ.png am on chrome 10, linux.
