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Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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I thought these types “believed in science” yet here we are just casually stating that if we all do shrooms, the environment will be “saved”. Can’t make this stuff up.

It's just like all the practical uses of hemp we used to hear about.

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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I've been microdosing psilocybin daily for the past six months during quarantine as a bit of a cognitive experiment. I feel a lot more switched on and focused in my work. Reading these posts I wonder what other diseases such as Parkinson's, seizures, PTSD, depression, anxiety have yet to be studied and require more research. Can anyone speak to this? Anything else I should add to my stack?

> I've been microdosing psilocybin daily for the past six months [...] I didn't get COVID and I feel a lot more switched on and focused You lost your causation vs correlation sense though :)

This sounds too much like Billions season 5 episode 7. Uncanny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJNljm1pVs

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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I'm sorry but this is just hippy nonsense. It's not the lack of mental integration into nature that is stopping us from taking care of the enverionment. And you don't need to trip on mushrooms to see the filth all arround us. The real issues include: not being able to stop production and consumption for obvious reasons. Energy production and distribution logistics. Understanding natural ecosystems and setting priorit…

The article was an interview with a headline chosen by someone else.

The points were about appreciating biodiversity and neurogenesis and it was very interesting. The headline was hyperbole and successful.

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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post #21

I thought these types “believed in science” yet here we are just casually stating that if we all do shrooms, the environment will be “saved”. Can’t make this stuff up.

It's just like all the practical uses of hemp we used to hear about.

Aren't governments getting in the way of those uses?

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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I've been microdosing psilocybin daily for the past six months during quarantine as a bit of a cognitive experiment. I feel a lot more switched on and focused in my work. Reading these posts I wonder what other diseases such as Parkinson's, seizures, PTSD, depression, anxiety have yet to be studied and require more research. Can anyone speak to this? Anything else I should add to my stack?

>> I feel a lot more switched on and focused in my work.

Quarantine alone can do that for some people. Shutting out the world is a requirement to focus on deep work. Same reason Joel Spolsky says software engineers need offices with doors.

Not saying you're wrong, just that you cant separate out this obvious factor in your experiment.

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've been microdosing psilocybin daily for the past six months [...] I didn't get COVID and I feel a lot more switched on and focused You lost your causation vs correlation sense though :)

Nailed it. A lot of the "I did this and it had great effects" are compounded with "I did this and it ruined my life" and a bit of "I did this and it ruined my life and everyone around me" . I suspect the human mind is tailored to promote the first outcome and stick it's fingers in its metaphorical ears about the last two outcomes. Turns out we need actual formal studies and even those aren't necessarily conclusive so…

Good evidence that big doses work: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/026988112091995...

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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post #21

I thought these types “believed in science” yet here we are just casually stating that if we all do shrooms, the environment will be “saved”. Can’t make this stuff up.

It's just like all the practical uses of hemp we used to hear about.

Well I'll tell you, I bought 500m of hemp rope because I was told it could use used to replace copper cabling for green electricity, ye knar?. It didn't work like, but I have now got the most environmentally friendly footstool in all of Middlesbrough.

Re: Paul Stamets on the interrelationship among mushrooms, consciousness, and nature

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nailed it. A lot of the "I did this and it had great effects" are compounded with "I did this and it ruined my life" and a bit of "I did this and it ruined my life and everyone around me" . I suspect the human mind is tailored to promote the first outcome and stick it's fingers in its metaphorical ears about the last two outcomes. Turns out we need actual formal studies and even those aren't necessarily conclusive so…

Good evidence that big doses work: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/026988112091995...

I’m sure that is caveated on some people and for some conditions. I’d expect a better standard and more research to be defined here or we’ll end up with another paroxetine mess on our hands.

I lost a decade of my life to cleaning up after that mess and that was just a family member’s encounter with it.

What is factual is that things are invariably more complicated than they look when it comes to human minds.

Look up “study 329” for an example of complexity.

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