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Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
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Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#22Didn't watch the video, but my personal feeling is that it is never too late--but people won't like the solution. We either do a voluntary contraction, the most humane way being to simply stop reproducing (not entirely, but drastically), and for those that remain, to live simply, with fewer things, traveling far less. Essentially, we would move toward an agrarian economy (plus internet). No more suburbs. Cities would…
or... we can just introduce a $100/tonne carbon tax, which would not even cause more than short dip in economic growth.
Consumption isn't bad, carbon is bad. All the modern conveniences can be produced by low-carbon technology or offset by direct air capture, and for relatively low cost. An anti-growth mindset is religious thinking.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#23Not if you Incentivize The Technology that will slow or stop it.
Correct. Don't listen to the doomsayers that just talk and don't propose any practical solutions. At least there are those who are developing the tools, technologies and policies that will slow it down or make a significant impact in stopping it.
Well, it is pretty doom and gloom if you look at the numbers for the Arctic region and realize that we are on the trail that was considered the worst case scenario. Climate Change (at that time natural, less abrupt) contributed to the end of the Roman Empire, and while few of mankind may survive, billions are unlikely to.
Not changing behaviors and just hoping for magical, unproven technology is plain stupid in my view. We are going to need that investment in technology, but it‘s not the magic solution. Many ecosystems aren’t even fully understood, so we can’t really tell what will result of their imminent collapse.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#24Of course it is. Even if we actually start sequestering CO2 from the atmosphere – which would require investments in the order of trillions of dollars – the damage has been done.
Not sure why this was downvoted. Everyone is in a perpetual state of "we should start worrying about this". People knew about this problem in the 70s. Many of us would not have been born when actions should have been first taken.
From here onwards it is damage control. It is not the end of the world, we just require intellectual honesty about the situation.
It's possible the origins of this reside in the first Industrial Revolution.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/13/18660548/climat... links to some sources. But from a common sense angle: the world can get a hell of a lot hotter before siberia is less habitable than arizona is now.
Siberia is already very hot in the summers. Like 40C+ in the summers and -40-50C in the winter. That range is not going to be 'Mediterranean' anytime ever.
Greenland or Antarctica, then.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct. Don't listen to the doomsayers that just talk and don't propose any practical solutions. At least there are those who are developing the tools, technologies and policies that will slow it down or make a significant impact in stopping it.
Back to the Amish way of life. That will work out, but people will have to go out of their confort zone.
IMHO hydrogen cars is the future. It gives the storage medium that is needed for wind turbines (and solar) to become ecologically positive. It gives a smoother transition path for fossil energy.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#27Well, I can be carbon negative pretty easily. So just make everyone pony up for their carbon.
No monetary solution will work. In a free market doing something bad for the planet while being able to avoid paying the cost of cleaning up is an advantage. Companies don't move operations to places with less strict emissions rules and fewer labor laws for fun - they do it to increase their profit. As soon as governments start making corporations really pay for carbon it'll give any country that wants to grow its ec…
Governments can introduce import tax on products made in countries that don't have strict enough rules.
> Climate change cannot be stopped while capitalist profit and growth chasing are what drives people to do things.
I hope not, because if we're going to have to change our system before we can tackle climate change we're doomed.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back to the Amish way of life. That will work out, but people will have to go out of their confort zone.
IMHO hydrogen cars is the future. It gives the storage medium that is needed for wind turbines (and solar) to become ecologically positive. It gives a smoother transition path for fossil energy.
If only cars were the sole problem.
Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#29Re: Is It Too Late to Stop Climate Change? [video]
#30what is the meaning of "too late"? the planet will survive, the organisms will adapt, humanity will die so what? maybe some amebas will evolve into something more peaceful that the savages we have become.
Humanity won't die. Climate change is bad, but it's pretty well established that it's likely not a existential threat.
It's very likely an existential threat.
We're currently on-track for a +5°C increase in temperature by 2050. Besides wreaking havoc to all existing ecosystems, it's also very likely that this will kill off most of the phytoplankton in the oceans. That's the stuff that makes most of the O2 for us.
There's no way we (humans) are going to survive this scenario.