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Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by henil2911 »

It makes me sad to see people targeting Mozilla for everything.

Like yeah its default browser is Google because that's the way they can pay developers to work on it. For now they are only viable alternative in browser space.

Yeah it collects data(only after asking for appropriate permission) which too is anonymous(i might be wrong here). But they are not collecting it to make profit out of it like google. Its only to make firefox better.

And people suggesting to use forks of firefox keep in mind if there is no firefox there are no forks. I am not qualified to comment on Mozilla's way of handling their funds. But it is what it is for now.

But atleast if you use firefox daily show some love!

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by x3ro »

ffpip wrote: post #16
x3ro wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expand on this? On desktop I don't see anything being stored anywhere on this site, but I'm likely missing something.

Did you click on the play store link? It is not linked directly to the play store. it is run through a tracking company first, which then assigns a unique ID to your installation for knowing what caused users to install firefox. The ID is present in the URL. Click the link once more to get another ID assigned to you. Then when you open the app, The ID is sent back to the company along with a list of specific apps ins…

Oh sorry, I misread your original comment. Now I understand what's happening. Thanks for elaborating :)

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by ffpip »

krimeo wrote: post #17
gambler wrote: post #12

Things Mozilla could do right now that would greatly improve our security and privacy: Add anti-fingerprinting tech to the core browser or at least verify one of the existing add-ons that do it. Add PGP/GPG to the core browser. Look into sandboxing. Maybe pick up maintenance of Sanboxie.

I am not a big fan of Mozilla (though I still use it because it is the least bad browser for me) but you can already set: privacy.resistFingerprinting to 'true' in about:config It is not perfect, of course, but helps a lot. Expect some sites to break.

privacy.resistfingerprinting is strictly for advanced users. Always attach a huge warning when asking people to enable it.

Examples of breakage - while enabling 2FA on any site, or using sites that offer the ability to edit photos, canvas picker, etc.

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by x3ro »

brokenc0de wrote: post #19
x3ro wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this stance to be honest. Do you also think that Apple's focus on privacy is wrong? Why would a company building a web browser not be concerned about the state of the web, the privacy of it's users, etc? These things seem to be directly related to their product.

Because Mozilla doesn't care about the privacy of their users. If they did, Pocket would be easily disabled, and they would have zero telemetry (like Ungoogled Chromium).

I don't think the things you cite necessarily mean "Mozilla doesn't care about the privacy of it's users". There's always room for improvement, but "they're not perfect" != "they don't care".

Tangentially related: ungoogled Chromium has some impact on Google's monetisation, but zero impact on their browser monopoly, because in the end you're still using their browser engine. So if you're talking about counteracting browser monopoly, ungoogled Chromium is not a good choice.

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by BitwiseFool »

x3ro wrote: post #13
BitwiseFool wrote: post #9

Is it too much to ask for a tech company to just focus on their product and not delve into social advocacy? Edit: The Unfck the Internet project proclaims to be all about user privacy, but it promotes an extension to report political ads and an extension to report recommended YouTube videos (with the goal of not exposing people certain content). That is why I see this as social advocacy because it's clearly got polit…

I don't understand this stance to be honest. Do you also think that Apple's focus on privacy is wrong? Why would a company building a web browser not be concerned about the state of the web, the privacy of it's users, etc? These things seem to be directly related to their product.

No, I don't think Apple's focus on privacy is wrong. Adding features which enhance user privacy doesn't seem like social advocacy because it's on an individual-level.

Here's why I consider this Unfck the Internet project to be social advocacy - the extension to track political ads via a public database. The extension to report problematic YouTube recommendations also serves the same purpose.

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by ffpip »

henil2911 wrote: post #21

It makes me sad to see people targeting Mozilla for everything. Like yeah its default browser is Google because that's the way they can pay developers to work on it. For now they are only viable alternative in browser space. Yeah it collects data(only after asking for appropriate permission) which too is anonymous(i might be wrong here). But they are not collecting it to make profit out of it like google. Its only to…

> Like yeah its default browser is Google because that's the way they can pay developers to work on it.

Not many people complain about this btw. It's a foolish argument. If Yahoo or DDG is the default, most people will just switch back to Google.

>only after asking for appropriate permission

No. it's opt out.

> which too is anonymous

No

>There is no firefox there are no forks

That's one of the most important points. Without Firefox, TOR browser will not exist either.

>But atleast if you use firefox daily show some love!

Yep! It's my default browser. Has killer features no other browser has.

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by [deleted] »

ffpip wrote: post #15
ignoramous wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anonymous tracking is fine with them, I'd presume, and totally seems to be in line with Mozilla's stance, too, one would think. It isn't like their flagship product, Firefox, is free of all telemetry.

Unique Id is hardly anonymous. Anonymous tracking is already part of the URL. The ?utm_source=unfck part of the URL helps Mozilla know how many people installed Firefox from that link.

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Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by 0x0 »

I clicked the "download on the app store" button, but ended up on a domain "app.adjust.com" showing a full screen "safari cannot open this page. The error was: the URL was blocked by a content blocker". Deceptive link, doesn't go to the regular ios app store for sure.

If you want to "unf*ck the internet", perhaps start doing exactly that with your own links. I cannot understand why "adjust dot com" needs to insert itself between this page and the app store. If it's for installation tracking, why not host whatever tracking service on your own domain? AFAIK "adjust dot com" couldn't possibly offer any magic installation tracking that the first party domain couldn't offer.

Re: Unfck the Internet

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Post by dleslie »

What's the goal of this campaign? To raise awareness about Firefox's products and increase users?

If so, who is the target demographic? The art and style look like they belong on Nickelodian.

It's giving me a "Hello, fellow kids" vibe.

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