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So, how long will it take (approximate) to complete the mentioned process ? Also, I think that matrix ecosystem will grow from this move.
It is not obvious from the title but Element is actually acquiring Gitter. Quote from the article: > In practice, the way this is happening is that Element (the company founded by the Matrix core team to fund Matrix development) is acquiring Gitter from GitLab, with a combined Gitter and Element dev team focusing on giving Gitter a new life in Matrix! There is also another blogpost from the elements side https://elem…
Well, the main news is that Gitter is going to natively join Matrix. We've been talking about doing this for a few years, but it never got to the top of the todo list on either side - plus frankly we're breaking new ground by making a large existing network natively speak Matrix (complete with incorporating room archives, etc). Others (e.g. Rocket.Chat) have had a go at natively speaking Matrix but it's hard to be th…
Gitter of it's own accord federating with matrix would be a watershed moment of a competitor laying down it's arms for the greater good, a détente in capitalism, and a really good sign for the future of all things Federated.
Element acquiring Gitter is normal M&A, normal business. It's still good for Matrix and good for Gitter users, and we're still cheering you on, but it's not quite that same watershed moment.
GitLab hasn't been giving it any attention. All they need is a checkmark in their portfolio.
Yes, shame GitLab didn't integrate Gitter natively into public projects same way issues and roadmaps are integrated.
I don't know the exact details and can't speak for others, but I suspect GitLab realised that chat(ops) tools are hard to sell and our time is better spent elsewhere. It's a shame though, having Gitter/chat directly integrated in a project (properly, not using e.g. an iframe) would've been pretty cool.
Sidenote, i love how i can pay Element and support Matrix/Element.
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Well, the main news is that Gitter is going to natively join Matrix. We've been talking about doing this for a few years, but it never got to the top of the todo list on either side - plus frankly we're breaking new ground by making a large existing network natively speak Matrix (complete with incorporating room archives, etc). Others (e.g. Rocket.Chat) have had a go at natively speaking Matrix but it's hard to be th…
I'm really excited about this too, but I'm afraid it does matter. Gitter of it's own accord federating with matrix would be a watershed moment of a competitor laying down it's arms for the greater good, a détente in capitalism, and a really good sign for the future of all things Federated. Element acquiring Gitter is normal M&A, normal business. It's still good for Matrix and good for Gitter users, and we're still ch…
But Gitlab is a for-profit company.
I don't see this as Gitter laying down arms, but rather as Gitlab not being able to monetize Gitter enough to justify keeping it in the company. They probably sold it for a very reasonable amount.
1. What happened to "ChatOps" and why is GitLab divesting in this space?
2. Who contacted whom? What are some details of the acquisition process and negotiations?
3. What does this mean at a practical sense for existing Gitter users?
4. What's going to happen in the next 6, 12, and 18 months?
This is awesome. I found Gitter super handy because of it's close tie to repos, but being able to reach it from Element would be really nice.
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I'm really excited about this too, but I'm afraid it does matter. Gitter of it's own accord federating with matrix would be a watershed moment of a competitor laying down it's arms for the greater good, a détente in capitalism, and a really good sign for the future of all things Federated. Element acquiring Gitter is normal M&A, normal business. It's still good for Matrix and good for Gitter users, and we're still ch…
I love this move, since I'm trying to move to Matrix as my primary chat where possible. Even more so since some of the mentioned features are sorely needed in Element, like threads. But Gitlab is a for-profit company. I don't see this as Gitter laying down arms, but rather as Gitlab not being able to monetize Gitter enough to justify keeping it in the company. They probably sold it for a very reasonable amount.
> Our plan is instead to merge Gitter’s features into Element (or next generations of Element) itself and then - if and only if Element has achieved parity with Gitter based on the above list - we expect to upgrade the deployment on gitter.im to a Gitter-customised version of Element. The inevitable side-effect is that we’ll be adding new features to Element rather than Gitter going forwards. Wonder what existing Git…
Hopefully they'll be happy that Gitter will sprout all Matrix's funky features like E2EE, VoIP, Widgets, Read receipts, Reactions, a bajillion clients/bots/bridges, the open standard API itself... and as long as Element-branded-as-Gitter looks and performs and smells enough like Gitter, and the community & rooms are still there, all will be well. And if they don't like it, they can always go spin up their own Gitter…