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Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by dartharva »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #9
rvz wrote: post #3

At this point, Google is beyond reason and is openly hypocritical. Open source? Yes. Open platforms? No. Even if they are competing against YouTube. Netflix and Youtube has disgusting content if not the former is now worse than LBRY and Google still gave Netflix a pass. If LBRY had the same content as Netflix and YouTube, Google would choose to ban LBRY 10,000 over, with the same reason.

> Netflix and Youtube has disgusting content What?

Google says it can't "allow sexual content". Netflix has hundreds, if not thousands of movies with explicit sexual content, strong and mature themes and even gore.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by SCLeo »

I am aware that in this case, it is just Google wrongly classify something that does not have explicit nudity as porn.

However, my question is, why are all major platforms banning pornographic content (video, novel, illustrations, etc.)? Or, why do we even sometimes view them as degenerating? Isn't the fact that PornHub is so successful a proof that we, as humans, do enjoy porn?

Also, this might not be true since I didn't do a research, but I really felt that almost everyone reading this comment have at least enjoyed some form of porn in their lives. If they are so prevalent, why are we banning them?

Edit: Although I do believe YouTube should allow porn and GitHub should allow open source erotic games, but I am mainly talking about Apple App Store or Google Play Store not allowing sexually explicit apps.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by noxer »

SCLeo wrote: post #22

I am aware that in this case, it is just Google wrongly classify something that does not have explicit nudity as porn. However, my question is, why are all major platforms banning pornographic content (video, novel, illustrations, etc.)? Or, why do we even sometimes view them as degenerating? Isn't the fact that PornHub is so successful a proof that we, as humans, do enjoy porn? Also, this might not be true since I d…

Its because google wants to give the apps to kids which they can not do if the apps show porn. Its should however not include user generated content that has to be searched on these apps. Else a browser would have to be removed too.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by SCLeo »

noxer wrote: post #23
SCLeo wrote: post #22

I am aware that in this case, it is just Google wrongly classify something that does not have explicit nudity as porn. However, my question is, why are all major platforms banning pornographic content (video, novel, illustrations, etc.)? Or, why do we even sometimes view them as degenerating? Isn't the fact that PornHub is so successful a proof that we, as humans, do enjoy porn? Also, this might not be true since I d…

Its because google wants to give the apps to kids which they can not do if the apps show porn. Its should however not include user generated content that has to be searched on these apps. Else a browser would have to be removed too.

Pardon my ignorance but I really don't know why kids should not be allowed to watch porn. I tried to look it up, but all results I looked at either claim it is ok for children to watch porn or just jump to teach you how to prevent your children from watching porn while assuming you already know why porn is harmful. Honestly, I doubt that there will be significant damage, especially if the people watching are already 16 or 17 years old.

However, that is not my expertise, so I can't say for sure that it is completely ok for teenager to watch porn.

Nevertheless, for the sake of this conversation, let's say, it is indeed really harmful for underage people to watch porn. Then, why don't Google or Apple just make a toggle? Or, since you already need an account to use Google Play or iOS App Store, just filter out all the porn apps when the users are deemed to be too young to properly enjoy porn. The fact that it is dangerous for a 6-year-old to drive a car does not mean cars should be banned for the entire humanity.

On the other hand, if watching porn for young people is indeed that harmful (enough for justifying banning them altogether on the largest 2 mobile app distribution platform), the future of humanity is already doomed, because they can already open up Google and search "porn" and start watching them.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by torresjrjr »

throwawaysea wrote: post #10

Utterly despicable and unacceptable. I can’t tell if this is an anti-competitive move (since one successful decentralized service might threaten the entire ecosystem of centralized platforms) or if it is some sort of Google internal political activism (since decentralization avoids the censorship and deplatforming performed by centralized providers like Google). Or maybe it’s both. But regardless it is unacceptable a…

> What other decentralized services are worth checking out?

You should definitely take a look into the Fediverse and PeerTube in particular. I personally wrote some articles to answer this particular question. I hope it helps :)

https://torresjrjr.com/archive/2020-07-20-what-is-the-fedive... BRIEF

https://torresjrjr.com/archive/2020-07-19-guide-to-the-fediv... LENGTHY

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by throwawayforce »

SCLeo wrote: post #24
noxer wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its because google wants to give the apps to kids which they can not do if the apps show porn. Its should however not include user generated content that has to be searched on these apps. Else a browser would have to be removed too.

Pardon my ignorance but I really don't know why kids should not be allowed to watch porn. I tried to look it up, but all results I looked at either claim it is ok for children to watch porn or just jump to teach you how to prevent your children from watching porn while assuming you already know why porn is harmful. Honestly, I doubt that there will be significant damage, especially if the people watching are already…

Pornography and hyper-sexualized media (music, film, tv) absolutely has an affect on peoples perception of healthy relationships. Let kids be kids and develop naturally without the bombardment of increasingly depraved media. Call me a prude but empiracally I see a correlation between conservative views on sex and happy/healthy relationships later in life. I don't know a single "sex positive" person in a stable marriage/relationship where as all of my conservative friends are happily married on the first try.

With regards to porn addiction, masturbation leads to lower testosterone levels which directly correlate to depression, weight gain, lack of motivation, etc. in men. We know women judge themselves and their own bodies critically based on what they see in the media. Porn and social media sets unrealistic standards for both genders.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by ilaksh »

I am actually unable to install the raw apk. After changing the allowed source setting and getting through the warnings, it says it is installing but at the end just says "App not installed".

This is why we need to support open source hardware and mobile operating systems.

But the large companies work together to close the existing networks. So we also need things like mesh networks and alternative service providers.

But ultimately there has to be some democratic push to reclaim some long distance internet links for the people. Or build new ones.

Re: Google stifles YouTube competitor LBRY, banning it for pedantic reasons

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Post by lowdose »

SCLeo wrote: post #24
noxer wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its because google wants to give the apps to kids which they can not do if the apps show porn. Its should however not include user generated content that has to be searched on these apps. Else a browser would have to be removed too.

Pardon my ignorance but I really don't know why kids should not be allowed to watch porn. I tried to look it up, but all results I looked at either claim it is ok for children to watch porn or just jump to teach you how to prevent your children from watching porn while assuming you already know why porn is harmful. Honestly, I doubt that there will be significant damage, especially if the people watching are already…

You are right, I had my first playboy calendar when I was 8 years old. All this secrecy how we are made and how people like to do that is depressing. We are just a bunch filthy animals.
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