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Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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“Moonwalking with Einstein”, a book by Joshua Foer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalking_with_Einstein ), is all about memorization techniques and memorization competitions. It’s a great read. He found that while practicing with specific techniques allowed him to win competitions, he still tended to forget where he put his car keys.

Yes great book. I highly recommend as well it if you want to learn more about memorization techniques or just for an entertaining read about the memorization community and history of memorization techniques.

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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When I learned the memory palace technique I practiced it by memorizing decks of cards. My fastest memorize & recall time was about 10 minutes, which isn't very fast compared to a lot who use this technique. I also memorized the population of each country, which makes me seem more knowledgable than I am about geo-politics. It's a good brain exercise, and mental walks through these memory palaces are in my opinion a great use of my idle time when I'm stuck waiting in line or something. Much better than draining my life energy into internet novelty on my phone these days.

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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When I learned the memory palace technique I practiced it by memorizing decks of cards. My fastest memorize & recall time was about 10 minutes, which isn't very fast compared to a lot who use this technique. I also memorized the population of each country, which makes me seem more knowledgable than I am about geo-politics. It's a good brain exercise, and mental walks through these memory palaces are in my opinion a g…

Did you use the memory palace technique to remember the populations? How so? Can you give a small example?

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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Back when I was playing competitive Pokemon, I'd remember the top 100 most used pokemon in competitions, their top 5 or 6 builds, the obscure moves that they'd use (Hidden power targets), the common stats that people would build towards (102 speed Jolly Garchomp will outrun a 110 speed Modest Gengar. +50% Dragondanced Jolly Gyarados will outrun a 130 Timid Tapu Koko), as well as OHKO targets of each pokemon (+50% boosted Jolly Gyarados will not OHKO Tapu Koko with Waterfall and is therefore forced to switch).

Because items were hidden information: it was important to memorize these details to know what items your opponent was using. A Gengar will do 30% against my Tank, but some items may increase the damage to say, 45%. If I saw that Gengar did 45% damage with Shadow Ball instead of the expected 30% damage, I knew that Gengar was equipped with Choice-Specs, and that Gengar was now locked-in on Shadow Ball (Choice-Specs gives +50% damage but forces the Pokemon to use the same move-over-and-over, meaning Gengar only has two options: use Shadow Ball again, or switch out. I can therefore better plan around the opponent, despite taking extra damage I wasn't expecting)

I'd also memorize common "cores": Celebi is commonly paired with Heatran back in Gen4 (Diamond / Pearl), because their types perfectly complement each other (especially in Gen4 when Steel was a Dark and Ghost resist). So if you saw that one player has a Celebi, it almost guarantees that they also have a Heatran on their team (Pokemon back then was a game of hidden information: you didn't know what was on the opponent's team until they threw a Pokemon out). Modern Pokemon games reveal the teams these days, so this kind of memorization is no longer needed.

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The overall metagame evolved month-to-month, requiring a new effort to memorize the newest strategies, cores, and builds to keep up with your opponents.

I'm sure there are many other games of partial-information that become memorization heavy. Magic the Gathering is probably another one (which I also played, but never "competitively").

Ex: seeing a few Human cards in Innistrad is an indicator that the player might have a Angel of Glory's Rise in their deck (resurrect all Humans, destroy all Zombies). Figuring out the opponent's "bomb card" before they play it is hugely important.

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Anyone playing a "team-building" or "deck-building" competitive game is almost surely a memorization king. I placed all of this effort into the game mostly because I knew my opponents placed that effort into the game, and that I'd need to push a similar level of effort to "keep up" with them.

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“Moonwalking with Einstein”, a book by Joshua Foer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalking_with_Einstein ), is all about memorization techniques and memorization competitions. It’s a great read. He found that while practicing with specific techniques allowed him to win competitions, he still tended to forget where he put his car keys.

I have a trick that works for such things (at least for me). When I'm leaving keys I imagine myself going back and searching for them and remembering that I left them there. Then when I really am in this situation I remember the false memory and find them :) Same thing works with remembering to buy something when going back from work and other "do THIS when THAT". When I decide I have to buy X I imagine myself steppi…

This trick loosely reminds me of Neal Stephenson's excellent Anathem; by imagining a narrative in which you've solved the problem you're trying to solve, you actually create that narrative with the solved problem; then it's just a matter of merging that narrative with your own.

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post #17

“Moonwalking with Einstein”, a book by Joshua Foer ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalking_with_Einstein ), is all about memorization techniques and memorization competitions. It’s a great read. He found that while practicing with specific techniques allowed him to win competitions, he still tended to forget where he put his car keys.

> he still tended to forget where he put his car keys. I find it just easier to develop a protocol on where the keys go. In fact, I organize my entire space so that everything has a place and as soon as I am done with it I put it back in the place. Reduces cognitive load. Since a thing is in a place every time, eventually my brain builds a detailed map of exactly where everything lives, even down to the inch within a…

I do this, but I live with people who don't.

Therein lies the rub...

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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A few years ago I got down to memorizing a deck of cards in less than 2 mins. First assign a person for each card. Use the initials of the card. So Ten of Hearts would be someone with the initials T H(eg Ted heath, Thomas Hardy). Choose a person that is visually easy to remember. Then when you are memorizing the cards use the method of loci. Go on an imaginative journey with 52 places and put the relevant person in t…

Would you mind giving more examples and step through of the process?

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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The memory palace is arguably the best technique for card memorization. Several years ago, I spent a week trying to memorize cards traditionally (rote memorization). However, this was a major failure. However, I then tried the memory palace technique, and within my first try, I memorized almost all the cards! With a couple more practice runs, I was successfully able to memorize the whole deck without any error. Give the memory palace technique a try!

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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I have a trick that works for such things (at least for me). When I'm leaving keys I imagine myself going back and searching for them and remembering that I left them there. Then when I really am in this situation I remember the false memory and find them :) Same thing works with remembering to buy something when going back from work and other "do THIS when THAT". When I decide I have to buy X I imagine myself steppi…

This trick loosely reminds me of Neal Stephenson's excellent Anathem; by imagining a narrative in which you've solved the problem you're trying to solve, you actually create that narrative with the solved problem; then it's just a matter of merging that narrative with your own.

This has helped me, I've also noticed it calms you down and you get a fresh focus, which is what's desperately needed in those times of panic.

Re: Memorizing a Deck of Cards

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A few years ago I got down to memorizing a deck of cards in less than 2 mins. First assign a person for each card. Use the initials of the card. So Ten of Hearts would be someone with the initials T H(eg Ted heath, Thomas Hardy). Choose a person that is visually easy to remember. Then when you are memorizing the cards use the method of loci. Go on an imaginative journey with 52 places and put the relevant person in t…

What is the benefit to such an exercise?

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