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Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Boston Dynamics was founded in 1992. That was almost 30 years ago. Just me, or is it crazy they haven't had 1 year of profitability in nearly 3 decades of operations.

> haven’t had one year of profitability

Also, beyond stakeholder investment, the contracts they had were often government contracts, or when in private companies it would be R&D, i.e. all made “at a loss” (until BR finds the right sauce).

Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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As someone who is in the field of mobile robotics, what Boston Dynamics does is often way ahead of its time. Robotics is hard and expensive. If you are developing a new form of locomotion it will take years and millions of dollars before things work out. Heck, I myself have seen my colleagues spend 10+ years just ironing out issues with underwater vehicles before they even see the market.

Yeah. But the bewilderment isn’t a technical one, it’s a business one. You’d think 30 years of unprofitable future tech would happen at a university or the military or some skunkworks operation for a massive company. Though I’m sure quite a bit of their funding is military.

It was, before Google. It cost about US$120 million to get Big Dog working. At least those were the reported DARPA contract amounts.

Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Maybe because you want a robot with more than 30 minutes' autonomy? Wheels (if practical) are best. Then legs (or wheel/leg hybrids). Then fixed wing (if you have somewhere you can take off and land). Multirotors are easy and fun but only practical for short missions.

There aren't fixed wing drones with VTOL? I'd imagine something like an Osprey would do well.

As well as an Osprey, or as well as a motorcycle with a sidecar. They are practical, but far from elegant or efficient.

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Cops will be using these to crush protestors in 10 years.

And the engineers involved will have had no idea such a thing would happen. After all, they only had the best of intentions, right? And if they didn’t do it someone else would have, right?

Cops manage to permanently injure or kill people with rubber bullets. I'm not really sure I can agree that the malice is in the tool and its creator. No matter how benign the tool you create, someone's going to abuse it.

Should fishing companies feel responsible because someone out there used fishing line to strangle people to death?

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Maybe because you want a robot with more than 30 minutes' autonomy? Wheels (if practical) are best. Then legs (or wheel/leg hybrids). Then fixed wing (if you have somewhere you can take off and land). Multirotors are easy and fun but only practical for short missions.

There aren't fixed wing drones with VTOL? I'd imagine something like an Osprey would do well.

There are, but I was trying to keep it short. Alphabet's "Project Wing" drones work like this, for example. They seem a bit inelegant though.

Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Boston Dynamics was founded in 1992. That was almost 30 years ago. Just me, or is it crazy they haven't had 1 year of profitability in nearly 3 decades of operations.

> 30 years ago

Wow, that's long enough that their earliest patents would have expired by now.

Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Is it just me or is the next robot already a drone? Why walk when you can fly?

Backwards compatibility is one of the reasons, meaning an humanoid form can interact with all the interfaces that humans already use in day to day basis, think push/pull doors, grabbing two-handed objects or pushing a car; as well as the ability to be aid by other machines without wasting their own energy: think using electric stairs, elevators, boarding a car/bus/train, sitting down at a computer desk (so hands stay on while legs are off). Plus doing all that without the risks that spinning blades bring.

Re: Boston Dynamics CEO talks profitability and the company’s next robots

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Boston Dynamics was founded in 1992. That was almost 30 years ago. Just me, or is it crazy they haven't had 1 year of profitability in nearly 3 decades of operations.

And people claim the markets/VCs are too short-termist. If anything, the opposite is true.

I don't think their main funding is from vc? As mentioned above it's darpa contracts before internalized within Google so quite the opposite it seems
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