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ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by rapsey »

uzakov wrote: post #7
xchaotic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great Britain is now much more desperate. It needs to compete for market share and access to markets like a 3rd world country but without the associated cheap labour so high tech is one of the few anchors where Britain might have USP. But as you say with ARM that ship has sailed with the previous sale to SoftBank. The only chance to salvage some of the know how (not the IP) would be if these specialists could find si…

To add to this comment(might be biased as I live and work in the UK): salaries here are just not on the USA level, while costs of items are the same, if not higher(check Apple products price difference on the official website, clothing etc). For many of high demand engineers the choice is London/Manchester or move to the USA

What about health care costs. Education costs. Amount of vacation time. Pension.

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by dimitrios1 »

primrose wrote: post #19
fluffything wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it can? Just buy it from Softbank at over 40bn$. "It's as simple as that". What the choosing beggars want, however, is getting ARM back from Softbank for free. After Softbank paid 32bn$ for it. And there you are right, ain't gonna happen.

I'm not so sure UK politicians would know what to do with a complicated tech company.

The answer is leave it the f___ alone. Why do people think politicians need to do anything?

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by throwaway2048 »

fluffything wrote: post #14
archgoon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently; when ARM was first sold to Softbank, Softbank made several guarantees to the UK. Nvidia has made no agreement to continue those guarantees. > At that time, Softbank announced it had agreed to legally binding commitments to increase investment, headcount and preserve its headquarters in the UK. > It is not too late for the government to impose conditions, but conversations on whether to impose them or what…

> Nvidia has made no agreement to continue those guarantees. Hasn't Nvidia has actually increased those guarantees with everything they have agreed on for buying ARM?

Do you have a source for this?

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by x87678r »

uzakov wrote: post #7
xchaotic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great Britain is now much more desperate. It needs to compete for market share and access to markets like a 3rd world country but without the associated cheap labour so high tech is one of the few anchors where Britain might have USP. But as you say with ARM that ship has sailed with the previous sale to SoftBank. The only chance to salvage some of the know how (not the IP) would be if these specialists could find si…

To add to this comment(might be biased as I live and work in the UK): salaries here are just not on the USA level, while costs of items are the same, if not higher(check Apple products price difference on the official website, clothing etc). For many of high demand engineers the choice is London/Manchester or move to the USA

If you're a high demand engineer, you're probably right but SV is special. If you compare London to NY or Birmingham to Altlanta the gap isn't really there. Esp check taxes and healthcare in the US. I've worked both and I'm living in NY based on what I saved when I worked in London, money wise the USA has been surprisingly bad.

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by eyesee »

tus88 wrote: post #23

Isn't apple about to design their own cpu? I would be selling arm asap.

Apple has been designing their own CPU's for a decade, using the ARM ISA. Apple has a perpetual license to the ISA though, so they would not be a source of future revenue.

Apple is also under no obligation to stick with ARM's roadmap for future products.

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by bserge »

rapsey wrote: post #21
uzakov wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add to this comment(might be biased as I live and work in the UK): salaries here are just not on the USA level, while costs of items are the same, if not higher(check Apple products price difference on the official website, clothing etc). For many of high demand engineers the choice is London/Manchester or move to the USA

What about health care costs. Education costs. Amount of vacation time. Pension.

That's the thing, for a high skilled position, the American salary will more than cover all of that.

Re: ARM: Can 'crown jewel' of UK technology be protected?

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

uzakov wrote: post #7
xchaotic wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great Britain is now much more desperate. It needs to compete for market share and access to markets like a 3rd world country but without the associated cheap labour so high tech is one of the few anchors where Britain might have USP. But as you say with ARM that ship has sailed with the previous sale to SoftBank. The only chance to salvage some of the know how (not the IP) would be if these specialists could find si…

To add to this comment(might be biased as I live and work in the UK): salaries here are just not on the USA level, while costs of items are the same, if not higher(check Apple products price difference on the official website, clothing etc). For many of high demand engineers the choice is London/Manchester or move to the USA

LOL, that's rich, engineers in the UK feeling underpaid when you have the best market for SW engineers in Europe(London).

Wanna see underpaid? Come to Austria.

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