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Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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I don't care about "us" going back to the office but I definitely want to go back to the office and I am far from alone in this.

It seems lately that most accounts arguing in favor of going back into office immediately are throwaways. I wonder why that is 🧐

Four year old account, 3k karma, despite the name.

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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The most fascinating thing about this crisis is how it has laid bare the importance of flexible, forward thinking leadership at every level, in every form of organization. Entities that have/will successfully adapt to the new reality we live in are the ones who have given up on the notion of a "return to normal". There will never be a "normal" again. The COVID-19 outbreak was an epochal event. Whether you embrace that and seize the new opportunities it has opened up, or determinedly force your outmoded mindset onto a world that no longer exists will determine who are the winners and losers out of all of this.

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems lately that most accounts arguing in favor of going back into office immediately are throwaways. I wonder why that is 🧐

Totally off topic, but I've never seen an emoji on HN before - maybe the restrictions on Unicode characters have been lifted? Edit: weirdly it seems to just be that specific emoji, others don't work

Yeah, this seems strange. I’ve seen the black heart symbol before (not an actual emoji), but never a real emoji. Does it work for me too? 🧐

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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post #16

I don't care about "us" going back to the office but I definitely want to go back to the office and I am far from alone in this.

It seems lately that most accounts arguing in favor of going back into office immediately are throwaways. I wonder why that is 🧐

Probably because lurkers have a topic they're finally passionate about. Also, doesn't this site have a rule about assuming the best intentions from posters?

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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I'm not banging any drums but I was excited to get back to an office. I think it's similar to the saying "Dress for Success", in that, when I'm in the office, I focus on work and get more done. Everything around me is work related and focused, there are no distractions, and I really get stuff done. My situation may be a bit unique, in that I work in an office alone (we are a remote work team, but I still keep an offi…

Same here. I am remote, but, up until the shutdown, I worked out of a coworking space.

Some things have improved. For example, my office-based colleagues' videoconferencing etiquette has improved dramatically. Nowhere near as many people doing things like leaving their camera off and blatantly working on other things instead of paying attention to the meeting.

But my own sense of wellbeing has suffered, all the same. I find it much easier to maintain work-life boundaries when work happens somewhere else.

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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post #8

I don't care about "us" going back to the office but I definitely want to go back to the office and I am far from alone in this.

Can you discuss why you want to go back to the office?

I’m not the parent poster, but I agree with their preference. It’s psychological. I focus better with a clear delineation of work in a work setting and personal life in a home setting. Even the physical transition of the commute helps me switch over. This is something that has eroded in the last six months even though I’ve tried to substitute it with practices like an “office” room.

Additionally, I am definitely a person who prefers in person meetings and conversations. It’s not that I can’t do remote conversations - I’ve even managed remote employees for years - but I value water cooler conversations as a place for spontaneous idea generation or just relationship building, which is just harder remotely. You have to go out of your way to send ideas into the ether, without the physical signs that someone might be receptive to random, possibly stupid musings, or non-sequiter stuff about personal life.

Count me among the people who are fine with others choosing to stay remote, but once it’s feasible and safe to go into the office I would want to do it.

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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The long term shakeout of this will be that everybody realizes that yes, we need offices. They are spaces literally built for working. The required footprint will be smaller, people won't need to be in the office for absolutely everything, the demand for square footage of commercial real estate will decrease a bit—good news for cities who don't build b/c they can convert excess commercial inventory to residential.

But we have also found a vast increase in productivity that we probably won't see in the numbers until we can separate it out from all the other crazy shit that's been happening. The efficiencies gained in every white collar business being forced to make remote work to some degree are significant, and I think as of yet underrated.

So no we're not all going to be sipping cocktails on the beach (though more of us might) but we will be better off. Big exogenous shocks tend to find hidden productivities, even if the shock part really sucks.

Re: Why do so many people want us back in the office?

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Beside what others have mentioned. CEOs do most of their time: meetings & talking to people. This is their job, they don't do Powerpoint, coding or anything else beside talking and meetings. Both is more draining if you do this 10h a day remotely. To my coachees there is a big push amongst CEOs to get people back in the office, they haven't defined their remote role yet.

I detect a hint of worry: if the company does just fine with minimal input from the CEO, how do they justify their outsized salary and benefits?
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