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Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by chrismorgan »

formerly_proven wrote: post #18
notacoward wrote: post #12

I have one. The US version "only" has a 4800U, but it was still an absolute steal at US$800. It's a nice size, feels solid, and lasts all day easily . I've used it all day more than once and not seen the battery go below 50% yet. Then again, I haven't really pushed it that hard. I'm sure if I played some games it would "only" last five or six hours. And no, I haven't had any issues with the screen. In fact I turn it…

> If you're staring at a 500nit screen at full brightness all day, you're probably not doing your eyes any good. I'm kinda surprised how many people set their screens to 100 % brightness (300-400 nits for most screens) on their desktop. I find that blinding and very uncomfortable. That also seems to be a reason why people complain so much about IPS bleed and glow; using the screen near full brightness in a dark room…

It’s hard to change the brightness of desktop monitors. Bafflingly, Windows and macOS don’t support adjusting their brightness the way they do for laptops, despite the existence of DDC/CI to do just that, so you’re left using third-party software if you know about it, or interacting with the awful OSD/buttons on the screen, which you’ll hardly want to do all the time.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24316728 is a recent comment chain about this stuff.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by jarym »

So Intel...

Lost their lead in consumer desktop CPUs and said ‘oh we have mobile and server’

But now AMD prove that Intel’s lead in mobile has been squandered.

And then the largest buyers of server grade stuff are cloud vendors who are waiting for ARM to come of age.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by formerly_proven »

chrismorgan wrote: post #10
rowanG077 wrote: post #3

All of the ryzen laptops that exist have abysmal screens. I would have bought one if it weren't for this fact.

My last couple of laptops have had IPS panels. I intend never to buy a TN panel again. My last laptop was a 15″ 1920×1080, and my current is a 13″ 3000×2000 (and I love the aspect ratio). I intend never to buy a laptop with a 1920×1080 screen again. At some point I’m afraid I may end up with a ≥120fps screen and rarefy my tastes still further. (I hear good things about them, but have never seen an LCD with such a fra…

For desktop use 120 vs 60 Hz is noticeable on Windows (obviously very noticeable on the mouse cursor, but that doesn't change the UX much), but because DWM has basically optimal latency as far as dragging windows around goes, it's not that big of a difference. On Linux it's a pretty huge difference since Linux compositors aren't as good as DWM. Basically, Linux with 120 Hz feels like Windows on 60 Hz.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by notacoward »

indymike wrote: post #14
rowanG077 wrote: post #3

All of the ryzen laptops that exist have abysmal screens. I would have bought one if it weren't for this fact.

After spending about six years with a Macbook with a retina display, going to even 1080p feels like a step back.

I'm on a three-year-old MBP right now. Next to me is my new IdeaPad Slim 7. Other than Slim's screen being a bit smaller, I hardly notice a difference.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by formerly_proven »

chrismorgan wrote: post #21
formerly_proven wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're staring at a 500nit screen at full brightness all day, you're probably not doing your eyes any good. I'm kinda surprised how many people set their screens to 100 % brightness (300-400 nits for most screens) on their desktop. I find that blinding and very uncomfortable. That also seems to be a reason why people complain so much about IPS bleed and glow; using the screen near full brightness in a dark room…

It’s hard to change the brightness of desktop monitors. Bafflingly, Windows and macOS don’t support adjusting their brightness the way they do for laptops, despite the existence of DDC/CI to do just that, so you’re left using third-party software if you know about it, or interacting with the awful OSD/buttons on the screen, which you’ll hardly want to do all the time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24316728 is…

I dunno. The OSD on Dells is pretty simple. You press the topmost button twice, up/down to adjust, lowest button to save and exit. Since my office has windows, I've been doing this two to four times a day on most days for years. Doesn't bother me too much (it's pretty quick though because I largely only use the 0-40 range, which is about 20-120 nits). On my LG it's even quicker, push the joystick back, then forward/back to change, push in or timeout to save and exit.

Some people say they'd like ambient light sensors, but I'm not sure I'd wanna use something like that. Sometimes I do find the changing brightnesses on mobile devices irritating.

Changing this directly in the OS would be a better UX, though.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by bluedino »

chrismorgan wrote: post #10
rowanG077 wrote: post #3

All of the ryzen laptops that exist have abysmal screens. I would have bought one if it weren't for this fact.

My last couple of laptops have had IPS panels. I intend never to buy a TN panel again. My last laptop was a 15″ 1920×1080, and my current is a 13″ 3000×2000 (and I love the aspect ratio). I intend never to buy a laptop with a 1920×1080 screen again. At some point I’m afraid I may end up with a ≥120fps screen and rarefy my tastes still further. (I hear good things about them, but have never seen an LCD with such a fra…

>> My last couple of laptops have had IPS panels. I intend never to buy a TN panel again.

Agreed, but there are plenty of dim IPS panels with poor contrast and color.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by bluedino »

Grazester wrote: post #7
q3k wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very happy with my T14 (AMD) IPS 1920x1080 display. Some might dislike that it's not High DPI, but personally that's not a feature I want.

250 to 500 nits. That is not very bright and this is the potential problem for me.

250 is not bright, but 500 sure is.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by silon42 »

formerly_proven wrote: post #23
chrismorgan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last couple of laptops have had IPS panels. I intend never to buy a TN panel again. My last laptop was a 15″ 1920×1080, and my current is a 13″ 3000×2000 (and I love the aspect ratio). I intend never to buy a laptop with a 1920×1080 screen again. At some point I’m afraid I may end up with a ≥120fps screen and rarefy my tastes still further. (I hear good things about them, but have never seen an LCD with such a fra…

For desktop use 120 vs 60 Hz is noticeable on Windows (obviously very noticeable on the mouse cursor, but that doesn't change the UX much), but because DWM has basically optimal latency as far as dragging windows around goes, it's not that big of a difference. On Linux it's a pretty huge difference since Linux compositors aren't as good as DWM. Basically, Linux with 120 Hz feels like Windows on 60 Hz.

First thing I usually switch off on Linux is the compositor. It's not that bad typically (you notice latency only if you look for it), but why add unnecessary latency...

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Post by lazylizard »

jarym wrote: post #22

So Intel... Lost their lead in consumer desktop CPUs and said ‘oh we have mobile and server’ But now AMD prove that Intel’s lead in mobile has been squandered. And then the largest buyers of server grade stuff are cloud vendors who are waiting for ARM to come of age.

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