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Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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The long term answer is to build a hacker network. That's going to be hard.

There is no good short-term answer but here's the only way: asking in the right places (like here) and getting very lucky. Being specific will help:

Do you have actual ideas? Do you bring domain knowledge to the table? Are your ideas niche to that domain? Do you know what type of business you'd want to run (bootstrapped/VC)? How are you going to get funding?

As a programmer, I know several hackers who are looking to start a business in the next year or so. If you had good answers to the above questions, I'd consider putting you in touch with them. Regardless, though, you are going to want to be specific as possible when asking. It's the only way of even having a chance.

Bonus tip: Put your email address in your profile before asking questions like this. You never know who might email you out of the blue.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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My problem is recognising tallent outside of your core compentencies. If you can recognise tallent, it's easy enough to pick up people who are on the rebound from bad jobs, or who haven't gotten much paid experience yet. I regularly hire friends of friends, but then I hang out with very technical people who have very technical friends. I've picked up a lot of really good technical people with little experience and pa…

recognizing talent is one thing that humans are amazingly bad at, as recent HN stories about malcom's new book and the nytimes article about competent vs nice coworkers have suggested.

i dont know if an iterative model can work in staffing.

this is why experience is so valued by companies -- if you've done stuff, then you are able to do stuff (though, maybe you're a big faker who got lucky.)

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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Wow that story sounds familiar. I was out of school for two years working as a financial analyst before getting accepted in to YC this summer.

Right out of school and six months in to my job I knew I wasn't really cut out for finance and preferred to not work for someone else. I started a business on the side and learned more in 3 months than I did all through college. Fast forward a year. A childhood friend of mine and I began collaborating on an idea I had whenever we had spare time. However, we were eventually faced with a Catch22 situation: we needed more time to work on our startup, but we also needed money to live on (my other side business was making decent money, but not enough to live off of). We were OK with this and planned on doing the startup on the side until it was making money, or at least launched.

On a whim we applied to YC as we figured "why the hell not?" YC accepted us even though I was a non-technical. I'm not exactly sure why as I've never actually asked them, but I will offer some speculation: my partner is a genius and I was extremely familiar with the market we were trying to get in to.

Looking back, if we would have been rejected, I would have learned to code. Even now I plan on doing so (and have already done some) once things are a little less hectic. Obviously, YC has sped up the creation process considerably and we've gotten more done in ~1.5 months than all the previous time combined.

So I guess my advice to you is this: 1. Start a business on the side if you can 2. Learn to hack 3. Follow aaronblohowiak's advice 4. Forget the mock business plans - I've run/ran 3 small to micro sized businesses and the closest thing I've done to completing a business plan is a YC Summer 08 application. At some point, you have to stop planning and start doing.

Good luck and feel free to email me anytime.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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Wow that story sounds familiar. I was out of school for two years working as a financial analyst before getting accepted in to YC this summer. Right out of school and six months in to my job I knew I wasn't really cut out for finance and preferred to not work for someone else. I started a business on the side and learned more in 3 months than I did all through college. Fast forward a year. A childhood friend of mine…

Thanks for the advice and I couldn't agree more. Ending the planning and beginning the doing is the theme of my day today. Trouble is, since im not a programmer, me "doing" something would consist of market research, putting my ideas on paper (i.e. summary business plans), and trying to network. If I knew that I could turn one of my ideas into even a small reality, then I would have plenty more to do in terms of copywriting, marketing, etc. I just need to either begin an active search for a hacker co-founder, pursue a non-software type of startup, or try to outsource the development.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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Wow that story sounds familiar. I was out of school for two years working as a financial analyst before getting accepted in to YC this summer. Right out of school and six months in to my job I knew I wasn't really cut out for finance and preferred to not work for someone else. I started a business on the side and learned more in 3 months than I did all through college. Fast forward a year. A childhood friend of mine…

Thanks for the advice and I couldn't agree more. Ending the planning and beginning the doing is the theme of my day today. Trouble is, since im not a programmer, me "doing" something would consist of market research, putting my ideas on paper (i.e. summary business plans), and trying to network. If I knew that I could turn one of my ideas into even a small reality, then I would have plenty more to do in terms of copy…

The business you start doesn't necessarily have to be web related - it can be anything.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly the problem I've had. There's 2-3 people I've worked with in the last 3 years I've approached about getting our nuts out of the corporate lock-box, and none of them have any interest. With two of them, you can tell immediately that the thought of leaving a corporate position for their own enterprise has never even crossed their minds. The other one overestimates the risk involved. sigh

You live in Dallas right? Good luck finding anyone here that hasn't been raised to climb the corporate ladder. I'm still in school, but I also find it pretty depressing to be around so many people that don't like thinking big or taking risks.

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Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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post #21

The long term answer is to build a hacker network. That's going to be hard. There is no good short-term answer but here's the only way: asking in the right places (like here) and getting very lucky. Being specific will help: Do you have actual ideas? Do you bring domain knowledge to the table? Are your ideas niche to that domain? Do you know what type of business you'd want to run (bootstrapped/VC)? How are you going…

Point very well taken and I appreciate your advice.

I have several ideas that I feel have potential, but I am open to working with someone elses dream idea just the same (in my opinion it's less about the idea and more about the execution). I boostrap my life and would expect to run a startup in much the same way. Depending on the type of startup, however, VC funding may very well be valuable. I have advanced Excel modeling skills and I build financial models everyday. I have experience working with numerous small to mid size companies and closed $10k-$20k web projects with my clients on a consistent basis while I was a junior/senior in college. I'm obviously not a programmer, but I learned enough to basically run the sales efforts for this company, make us a leader in working with alternative energy clients, and make clients comfortable with sending a $10k check to a small company they had never even heard of before.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

#29
I'm a Rails coder, can lead project and define architecture. Getting ready for YC spring 2009. Looking for the business side partners who can sell and promote the hell out of a SaaS idea that will be big time for small and medium businesses. Email address in my profile.

Getting ready for YC spring 2009.

Re: Ask YC: Finding a co-founder(s)

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I'm in a similar boat, in a way. I'm currently playing with the idea of founding a web service-based company but as I research the technology behind my concept (I would be a non-technical founder) I continuously come across accounts of how difficult it is for people in my situation. If you come across an engineer ready to take the leap into the world of start ups, odds are pretty good they intend to work on their own…

Nick, Zacharye

I'm a Rails coder, can lead project and define architecture. Getting ready for YC spring 2009. Looking for the business side partners who can sell and promote the hell out of a SaaS idea that will be big time for small and medium businesses. Hackers are welcomed too! Email address in my profile.

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