Can they follow the Epic route and sue?
Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
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Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because many of the people developing apps for their platform rely on advertising revenue to pay the bills?
If the app makers were merely showing an ad , even an intrusive one without selling out my information -- I will be able to tolerate that. However when app developers include libraries from foursquare or facebook, what they are doing is violating the users' privacy and selling their information to third party aggregators who will apply data analytics to build a full predictive model of your behavior and then they wil…
FB has done plenty wrong but you can make the point without upping the hyperbole as well.
There is a danger of FB manipulating things on its own but they didn't sell the data to any third party including Cambridge Analytica, it was harvested because of poor API policy(your friend auth giving access to some of your details) which was fixed in the future. The behavioral profiles were built by Cambridge Analytica on its own by the data it stole.
Why would FB in any instance even sell your data? I would argue it is in FB's interest to keep the data for itself, not letting anyone have it and be the gatekeeper.
The right thing to argue is, whether you want FB/Tiktok itself to have the treasure trove of data or not, and whether you want to allow them to use that to do precise targeting.
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#23Apple pushed an OSX update (10.15.6) just to demand acceptance to their data-sharing practices from all their user. The forced-to-accept "welcome" screen (which shows up before the main desktop and disregard every single accessibility option the user might have (even the mouse scrolling direction!) starts with: > "Apple's ad platform is designed to protect your information ..." A few interesting things. First, I doub…
When did this happen? Accessibility options have always been available for me in Setup Assistant (which usually does the post-login after update setup).
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#24> Ultimately, despite our best efforts, Apple’s updates may render Audience Network so ineffective on iOS 14 that it may not make sense to offer it on iOS 14. Seems like Apple is really backing up their rhetoric with real action. Awesome news for anyone that values privacy. Kudos to Apple.
This is what gets me to move away from Android. I like the Andoird ecosystem more, but my hate for advertising supercedes all of that.
That's ironic given some of the best possible ad blocking on mobile devices is Ublock Origin on Firefox mobile which is only available on Android (Apple only allows third party browsers to wrap Safari on iOS). Its 2020 and the only modicum of privacy you can get is a rooted android device.
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#25> We believe that industry consultation is critical for changes to platform policies User consultation is more critical, but Facebook doesn't really have "users", per se - they have products.
Oh, they have plenty of users; they're just not the people whose labour they're harvesting.
Good point
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#26For people blocking facebook -
https://web.archive.org/web/20200826162402/https://www.faceb...
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the app makers were merely showing an ad , even an intrusive one without selling out my information -- I will be able to tolerate that. However when app developers include libraries from foursquare or facebook, what they are doing is violating the users' privacy and selling their information to third party aggregators who will apply data analytics to build a full predictive model of your behavior and then they wil…
FB has done plenty wrong but you can make the point without upping the hyperbole as well. There is a danger of FB manipulating things on its own but they didn't sell the data to any third party including Cambridge Analytica, it was harvested because of poor API policy(your friend auth giving access to some of your details) which was fixed in the future. The behavioral profiles were built by Cambridge Analytica on its…
> it was harvested because of poor API policy which was fixed in the future
Is there any evidence that it was actually fixed?
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#28"Preparing our partners"? More like notifying them that their businesses may go out of business.
It reads to me like "Wah, we can't do what we want anymore. Boohoo! However, we are working hard to find a way to get around the upcoming limitations."
it will impact small apps that are whose business is dependent on buying or selling mobile ad space more than facebook itself
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#29Apple pushed an OSX update (10.15.6) just to demand acceptance to their data-sharing practices from all their user. The forced-to-accept "welcome" screen (which shows up before the main desktop and disregard every single accessibility option the user might have (even the mouse scrolling direction!) starts with: > "Apple's ad platform is designed to protect your information ..." A few interesting things. First, I doub…
Ad is a word. Get over it.
Re: Preparing Our Partners for iOS 14
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what gets me to move away from Android. I like the Andoird ecosystem more, but my hate for advertising supercedes all of that.
That's ironic given some of the best possible ad blocking on mobile devices is Ublock Origin on Firefox mobile which is only available on Android (Apple only allows third party browsers to wrap Safari on iOS). Its 2020 and the only modicum of privacy you can get is a rooted android device.
Yeah but that only blocks browser based ads - what Apple is doing here is blocking trackers at the OS level - this is what FB is complaining about since their SDK allows the device to be tracked - not just browsers.