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Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by cuddlybacon »

cperciva wrote: post #19
cuddlybacon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in youth league hockey as carbon fiber sticks went from unheard of to ubiquitous. Carbon sticks failed in a spectacular way, but wood stills would also fail. They wouldn't break in two during a slapshot, but they would generally split along the bottom of the blade. If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. By the time my parents caved in and bought a wood stick, I was at the point of consuming one new stick…

If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. I'm curious, what penalty gets called here? I wasn't aware there was a "your equipment fell apart" penalty.

I think the penalty was something to do with equipment safety.

I played in Canada, but this ruling seems quite similar to what was in effect for us: https://www.usahockeyrulebook.com/page/show/1084649-rule-605...

I think the worry is a broken stick has a chance of producing something sharp that can injure others. I think it is more of a worry when the break is along the shaft of a wooden stick (as you could stab someone, you're basically wielding a spear) but even a split along the bottom of a wooden stick's blade has the potential to lose splinters.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by evanspa »

cperciva wrote: post #19
cuddlybacon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in youth league hockey as carbon fiber sticks went from unheard of to ubiquitous. Carbon sticks failed in a spectacular way, but wood stills would also fail. They wouldn't break in two during a slapshot, but they would generally split along the bottom of the blade. If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. By the time my parents caved in and bought a wood stick, I was at the point of consuming one new stick…

If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. I'm curious, what penalty gets called here? I wasn't aware there was a "your equipment fell apart" penalty.

I think it's just called the "broken stick" rule. Specifically, if you break your stick, you HAVE to drop it on the ice immediately and be done with it. If you even skate back to the bench holding it, you can get called for a penalty.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by jamestenglish »

cperciva wrote: post #19
cuddlybacon wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in youth league hockey as carbon fiber sticks went from unheard of to ubiquitous. Carbon sticks failed in a spectacular way, but wood stills would also fail. They wouldn't break in two during a slapshot, but they would generally split along the bottom of the blade. If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. By the time my parents caved in and bought a wood stick, I was at the point of consuming one new stick…

If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. I'm curious, what penalty gets called here? I wasn't aware there was a "your equipment fell apart" penalty.

https://www.usahockeyrulebook.com/page/show/1084649-rule-605...

The penalty here isn't because your equipment fell apart, it is if you keep playing with broken equipment then that is a penalty. If your stick breaks and you drop it on the ice then you are fine.

Broken sticks are sharp so playing with one is a safety hazard.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by rdiddly »

Got distracted by the new post already added above this one, about the collapse of the original Tacoma Narrows Bridge. In particular, other than its being a rare example of a spectacular bridge collapse that was more-or-less caught on film, I'm not sure it's a great example for an engineering ethics class. Because the most likely cause of its failure wasn't any particular ethical consideration, but the interaction of phenomema (wind vortex shedding and structural resonance) about which nobody had a lot of experience or knowledge at the time. Time goes by and we learn from the successes and the failures. Almost every major earthquake ends up pushing a few changes to the building codes. We now return you to your regularly scheduled hockey-related program.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by burnte »

evanspa wrote: post #22
cperciva wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If refs noticed it, you could get a penalty. I'm curious, what penalty gets called here? I wasn't aware there was a "your equipment fell apart" penalty.

I think it's just called the "broken stick" rule. Specifically, if you break your stick, you HAVE to drop it on the ice immediately and be done with it. If you even skate back to the bench holding it, you can get called for a penalty.

How does the broken stick get off the field of play if you're not allowed to carry it off?

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by pencerw »

dang wrote: post #20
rsync wrote: post #6

What am I looking at here ? Is there, in fact, a web-based reference copy of a mailchimp brokered mailing list ? Do all mailchimp campaigns auto-generate these pages ? I have never seen this before. I've never considered a mailing list, or mailchimp campaign, for rsync.net but for some reason those same things with a bloggy web page backing store behind it weirdly appeals to me ...

We've changed the URL from https://mailchi.mp/theprepared/the-prepared-4ydgzm58vl to the article that it points to, which seems to have the most information about the story. I don't think an issue of a newsletter which contains a paragraph about one thing among lots of other things, plus promotional padding, really counts as an article about that thing for HN purposes. It seems more like an attempt to promote the new…

IMO this ends up being way more advertorial (for Bauer) and lacks all of the engineering context (urethane inserts! damping! "the dichotomy between nature and human technologies"!). But, understood.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by cuddlybacon »

burnte wrote: post #25
evanspa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just called the "broken stick" rule. Specifically, if you break your stick, you HAVE to drop it on the ice immediately and be done with it. If you even skate back to the bench holding it, you can get called for a penalty.

How does the broken stick get off the field of play if you're not allowed to carry it off?

The nearest ref would pick it up and remove it once play left that area.

Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by [deleted] »

burnte wrote: post #25
evanspa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just called the "broken stick" rule. Specifically, if you break your stick, you HAVE to drop it on the ice immediately and be done with it. If you even skate back to the bench holding it, you can get called for a penalty.

How does the broken stick get off the field of play if you're not allowed to carry it off?

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Re: Evgeny Kuznetsov practices with Bauer stick that has hole in the blade

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Post by Magi604 »

burnte wrote: post #25
evanspa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just called the "broken stick" rule. Specifically, if you break your stick, you HAVE to drop it on the ice immediately and be done with it. If you even skate back to the bench holding it, you can get called for a penalty.

How does the broken stick get off the field of play if you're not allowed to carry it off?

It stays on the ice until a whistle, then an official takes it off the ice. It can interfere with play, such as if a pick hits it, but players are not allowed to purposely interact with it.
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