Women Crowdfunded Radium For Marie Curie

Post by thefounder » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:52 AM UTC

adventured wrote: post #20

KingOfCoders wrote: post #18

Oh no, another thread that will bring the nationalists out (see the hundreds of Wikipedia fights about nationality and naming of famous people). The Wikipedia page of Curie had it's share. As if it is important from what nation a person is who gifted humanity with a piece of art, an invention or scientific breakthrough. I wonder why people are so eager to associate their nation with the results of individuals. I neve…

I agree with your sentiment, generally speaking. It derives from needing to pull pride from another thing through self-selected association. It's the same thing that sports fans do when their preferred team wins a championship. You see all sorts of weird permutations of this concept in action. When NASA or SpaceX does something, it's said to be an accomplishment for all of humanity, people around the world want a pie…

Post by blanche_ » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 12:31 PM UTC

trwired wrote: post #5

blanche_ wrote: post #3

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This is kinda of sad, because wikipedia has her page titled as Marie Curie too. It is a bit ironic imo, because poles are very proud of her and yet at the time the country failed her, by not giving the possibility of attending university.

> the country failed her, by not giving the possibility of attending university The country didn't exist at the time, being partitioned between Prussia, Russia and Austria-Hungary. Poles didn't have much to say about the university admission policies of the Russian Empire, where she lived. She did, however, attend the so called Flying University [1], which was a higher education institution organized by Polish underg…

Post by blanche_ » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 12:34 PM UTC

globular-toast wrote: post #14

xchip wrote: post #8

Were men excluded from crowdfunding for Marie Curie? So bad.

When men do things, "we" did it, or "scientists" did it etc. When women do things "women" did it, or "female scientists" did it etc.

Post by konjin » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 1:22 PM UTC

AlexTWithBeard wrote: post #21

KingOfCoders wrote: post #18

Oh no, another thread that will bring the nationalists out (see the hundreds of Wikipedia fights about nationality and naming of famous people). The Wikipedia page of Curie had it's share. As if it is important from what nation a person is who gifted humanity with a piece of art, an invention or scientific breakthrough. I wonder why people are so eager to associate their nation with the results of individuals. I neve…

It's important for two reasons. First, it's just a precautionary measure. Every once in a while I have to remind my children that USA is not the only great country in the world. Other countries have also fought for their land, produced great artists and scientists and usually have quite an interesting history. Second, putting my scientific hat on, if some country has much more/less scientists than another, then at le…

Post by KingOfCoders » Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 2:47 PM UTC

thefounder wrote: post #22

adventured wrote: post #20

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I agree with your sentiment, generally speaking. It derives from needing to pull pride from another thing through self-selected association. It's the same thing that sports fans do when their preferred team wins a championship. You see all sorts of weird permutations of this concept in action. When NASA or SpaceX does something, it's said to be an accomplishment for all of humanity, people around the world want a pie…

There is no single answer for this but I believe it also helps promote better systems(political/economical). It's obvious that a gifted person without support from the environment can achieve very little. Think of what Steve Jobs would have achieved if he was to be born and raised in Syria. Not much I would say. Therefore I believe it's right for people to pull pride from someone's else work through association. You…