I use Zoho mainly for email but some other services as well. I like it very much but it cannot rival G suite or Office365 yet. Website states that it can though so their experience might be different. Text editor and spreadsheet app are way slower than both Google and Microsoft solutions.
Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life
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#22I dropped all google services and it wasn’t that hard. The most tedious part is moving accounts from your gmail to your new email (I switched to using my own domain backed by fastmail). Even with a password manager and a list of all my accounts this took me an entire day. You also learn how terrible most non-software company account management is. On a lot of sites changing email is impossible. On some it lets you do…
Google's purpose is to help the NSA circumvent congress. Google is here to stay until further notice.
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#23If a company is based in an "X eyes" nation", but the product is A) self-hosted and B) open source, does it matter that the organization the develops it is based in an "X eyes" nation?
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#24It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid Google with the upcoming Fuchsia OS designed to work everywhere and replace Android and also Google's upcoming SoC.
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#25I dropped all google services and it wasn’t that hard. The most tedious part is moving accounts from your gmail to your new email (I switched to using my own domain backed by fastmail). Even with a password manager and a list of all my accounts this took me an entire day. You also learn how terrible most non-software company account management is. On a lot of sites changing email is impossible. On some it lets you do…
An entire day! I wish it were that easy. My password manager says I have 331 accounts using my gmail address. I figure it'll take me a year to move everything if I spend a couple hours a week. I categorized them into tiers based on importance and still ended up with 63 in the top "important or regularly use" tier and 59 in the next "will probably use again" tier. The lower tiers, I'll probably not even bother with.
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#26Does a service being part of the “5-eyes” really mean anything? I mean, this list makes it sound like being in China is a better alternative than being in Canada.
It depends entirely on your thread model. If you're trying to avoid persecution by one of the 5-eyes and not any of the others, then yes, obviously it matters. For example, for dissidents, leakers, activists, etc. Having someone else spy on you who doesn't care about you and what you're doing isn't as big of a deal in such cases.
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#27I agree with doing this and have started too, theres many alts to google and google drive
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#28I dropped all google services and it wasn’t that hard. The most tedious part is moving accounts from your gmail to your new email (I switched to using my own domain backed by fastmail). Even with a password manager and a list of all my accounts this took me an entire day. You also learn how terrible most non-software company account management is. On a lot of sites changing email is impossible. On some it lets you do…
An entire day! I wish it were that easy. My password manager says I have 331 accounts using my gmail address. I figure it'll take me a year to move everything if I spend a couple hours a week. I categorized them into tiers based on importance and still ended up with 63 in the top "important or regularly use" tier and 59 in the next "will probably use again" tier. The lower tiers, I'll probably not even bother with.
There is an automatic email change option in few password managers but yeah, that's one of the reasons why I have been redirecting lot of things using my own domain name. If in future, some service go down - I can reroute that. If google deprecate gmail, no worries.
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#30I dropped all google services and it wasn’t that hard. The most tedious part is moving accounts from your gmail to your new email (I switched to using my own domain backed by fastmail). Even with a password manager and a list of all my accounts this took me an entire day. You also learn how terrible most non-software company account management is. On a lot of sites changing email is impossible. On some it lets you do…
An entire day! I wish it were that easy. My password manager says I have 331 accounts using my gmail address. I figure it'll take me a year to move everything if I spend a couple hours a week. I categorized them into tiers based on importance and still ended up with 63 in the top "important or regularly use" tier and 59 in the next "will probably use again" tier. The lower tiers, I'll probably not even bother with.
I have 163 accounts for clarity, so it’d probably take you two days.
I do mean an entire day, I basically did it for 12 hours.
Have to find some ways to entertain myself during the pandemic lockdown :).