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Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

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Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

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I was hoping DeepSpeech would lead to in home cloud-less "Alexas". Just ask me for a subscription on it and productize it please.

There are many cloud-less Alexas already, a good one is rhasspy https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/, it is not based on deepspeech though.

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#24
post #9

Does anyone know of other open-source projects in the speech-to-text space? DeepSpeech was one of the most promising projects, especially the latest versions...

There are a lot of open source projects in this space. DeepSpeech is actually one of the outsiders (they are not represented well in the academic community), and also not quite competitive to other software (at least last time I checked). E.g. some very active projects are: * Kaldi ( https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/ ) obviously, probably the most famous one, and most mature one. For standard hybrid NN-HMM models a…

Can you run audio files through any of these or do they only support audio from microphones?

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#25
post #9

Does anyone know of other open-source projects in the speech-to-text space? DeepSpeech was one of the most promising projects, especially the latest versions...

There are a lot of open source projects in this space. DeepSpeech is actually one of the outsiders (they are not represented well in the academic community), and also not quite competitive to other software (at least last time I checked). E.g. some very active projects are: * Kaldi ( https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/ ) obviously, probably the most famous one, and most mature one. For standard hybrid NN-HMM models a…

You seem to know a lot about the topic, any idea about the current state of text-to-speech? Haven't seen any opensource projects that would make, for example, an ebook enjoyable.

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#26

I was hoping DeepSpeech would lead to in home cloud-less "Alexas". Just ask me for a subscription on it and productize it please.

So to confirm what you have in mind:

That's a physical device with all computation and information local?

And you'd pay for an upfront cost of the device as well as a subscription?

What comes with the subscription? Updated data, new features? Just keeping the lights on?

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#27
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all company-sponsored programming languages are run as loss leaders to enable selling some other profitable product of the company. What is the profitable product that Rust enables?

> What is the profitable product that Rust enables? Surely that's Firefox?

Firefox apparently is not longer a focus because it is hard to monetize outside of the search box, see earlier letter. I would definitely not take Firefox' future for granted at this point.

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#28
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of open source projects in this space. DeepSpeech is actually one of the outsiders (they are not represented well in the academic community), and also not quite competitive to other software (at least last time I checked). E.g. some very active projects are: * Kaldi ( https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/ ) obviously, probably the most famous one, and most mature one. For standard hybrid NN-HMM models a…

You seem to know a lot about the topic, any idea about the current state of text-to-speech? Haven't seen any opensource projects that would make, for example, an ebook enjoyable.

Recent more or less reasonable one is https://github.com/TensorSpeech/TensorFlowTTS, it implements all the latest algorithms. For simple business books it will be ok, for emotional fiction probably not there yet.

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

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post #11
post #6

Where does it say DeepSpeech is on hold? I don't see that anywhere.

Submitted title was "Mozilla to put DeepSpeech project on hold". We've replaced that with the article title per this guideline: " Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I guess that explains why I was under the impression the project was being shuttered after reading the comments, but not the actual post yet.

The actual forum post just says they don't know anything about the future of DeepSpeech yet, for those doing the same.

Re: Future of DeepSpeech / STT after recent changes at Mozilla

#30
I'm not sure about Mozilla's efforts in STT, but they were lagging pretty far in TTS. [1]

Google/Baidu, universities, and an assortment of Chinese/Japanese/Korean social media companies (Line, etc.) are posting the most compelling TTS research, models, and code. Mozilla's TTS system [2] is an amalgam of some of these models, but it lags pretty far behind state of the art.

Mozilla should focus on getting additional revenue streams. We can help them out by trying to get Congress / DOJ to strip Google of its ability to have and maintain a browser with which they entrench their search and advertising moat. I think they're clearly in antitrust/anticompetitive territory.

[1] I'm pretty familiar with this field as I wrote https://vo.codes and https://trumped.com TTS systems. Neither of those are state of the art in terms of mean opinion score (MOS), but they're incredibly efficient.

[2] https://github.com/mozilla/TTS

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