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Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by jpttsn »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #18
mc32 wrote: post #7

My understanding is polygraphs are used as a tool to have people trip over themselves by using it as a prop when the administrator thinks they have something to catch them on. Now that makes me wonder, if they don’t use fMRI is it because it’s also just a prop but with more studies behind it?

I read an article somewhere in which a cop told the story of conducting an interrogation using an ersatz lie detector. If he thought the suspect was lying, he'd push a button, and out would come a piece of paper saying "He's lying." It was a Xerox machine.

This is the opening scene of season 5 of The Wire.

Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by sildur »

petre wrote: post #14
rshnotsecure wrote: post #2

KGB did not use or believe in polygraphs. Always found that an interesting comparison to American intelligence.

No, they would just break your fingers or until you admitted to basically anything just to make them stop. They didin't need a polygraph for that, just a hammer, a drawer or a door.

Ah, the Guantanamo tourist pack.

Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by dagenleg »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #18
mc32 wrote: post #7

My understanding is polygraphs are used as a tool to have people trip over themselves by using it as a prop when the administrator thinks they have something to catch them on. Now that makes me wonder, if they don’t use fMRI is it because it’s also just a prop but with more studies behind it?

I read an article somewhere in which a cop told the story of conducting an interrogation using an ersatz lie detector. If he thought the suspect was lying, he'd push a button, and out would come a piece of paper saying "He's lying." It was a Xerox machine.

That's a scene from The Wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgrO_rAaiq0

Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by ilogik »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #18
mc32 wrote: post #7

My understanding is polygraphs are used as a tool to have people trip over themselves by using it as a prop when the administrator thinks they have something to catch them on. Now that makes me wonder, if they don’t use fMRI is it because it’s also just a prop but with more studies behind it?

I read an article somewhere in which a cop told the story of conducting an interrogation using an ersatz lie detector. If he thought the suspect was lying, he'd push a button, and out would come a piece of paper saying "He's lying." It was a Xerox machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN7pkFNEg5c

Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by moomin »

It's a bit of a joke, really. I doubt there's anyone reading this on here who didn't already know polygraphs don't work. The only people who don't seem to know polygraphs don't work are the ones making national security decisions relating to polygraphs.

Re: Accused spy Alexander Yuk Ching Ma evidently beat the polygraph

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Post by cik2e »

actuator wrote: post #17
rshnotsecure wrote: post #2

KGB did not use or believe in polygraphs. Always found that an interesting comparison to American intelligence.

Aren't there psychoactive meds which weaken control and should work better unless the person has developed resistance against that compound.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum

TL;DR No, there aren’t.

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