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SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

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Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

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post #7

Apparently the Saturn V could lift 119 metric tons to LEO.

At $1.11 billion per launch, though. SpaceX is promising $80-$125 million for half the payload.

I'm actually surprised things haven't gotten cheaper by more than a factor of 5 in half a century. (If anyone's wondering, $1.11 Billion is in 2011 dollars.) Does anyone know what the primary costs are? People, construction, raw materials, etc.?

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#22

Wow, I like how candid they are about the pricing. It feels like they are targeting consumers more than governments -- most 'expensive,' enterprise targeted products are of the 'call us and ask for pricing' variety.

Looks like there's an opportunity here for an entrepreneur to set up a consumer market. At $3,000 / kilogram you'd make a tidy profit if you could attract sufficient customers.

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#23
post #14

The table here doesn't give cost comparisons for the other launch vehicles, but in the press conference Elon Musk said that the Delta IV Heavy costs roughly 3x the Falcon Heavy, meaning that the FH is approximately 6x cheaper in $/lb to low earth orbit. The figures quoted on the page work out to $1,070 per lb to LEO. That's less than $200k to lift the mass of a 180lb human.

> That's less than $200k to lift the mass of a 180lb human. Before anyone tries to estimate how much space tourism will cost, remember that the actual weight of humans will make up a tiny fraction of the total weight of any orbiting hotel. Probably need to multiply by an order of magnitude or two.

Yes, indeed. And even disregarding the mass of the destination and of the ferrying craft, the mass of life support systems and consumables for each individual on the way up and down are likely at least double this anyway.

But, longer term, consider what happens if/when there is existing infrastructure in LEO and highly productive and profitable work for an individual to do there. The cost of actually getting to LEO will be a relatively minor relocation cost, even at these numbers.

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#24
With all their partnerships and contracts, SpaceX is now a viable alternative in the industry. Clearly they can compete on price. What remains to be determined however is if they can compete on mission success and reliability. You can bet their competitors are playing the fear card to their customers.

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $1.11 billion per launch, though. SpaceX is promising $80-$125 million for half the payload.

I'm actually surprised things haven't gotten cheaper by more than a factor of 5 in half a century. (If anyone's wondering, $1.11 Billion is in 2011 dollars.) Does anyone know what the primary costs are? People, construction, raw materials, etc.?

I've heard it's people to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#26
post #3

Can this eventually carry people into orbit, I wonder?

Yes. https://twitter.com/spacexer/status/55291286919454720 > Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are designed to meet all published NASA standards to carry crew. (disclaimer: you must weigh less than 53 metric tons)

> (disclaimer: you must weigh less than 53 metric tons)

Damnit!

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#28
post #24

With all their partnerships and contracts, SpaceX is now a viable alternative in the industry. Clearly they can compete on price. What remains to be determined however is if they can compete on mission success and reliability. You can bet their competitors are playing the fear card to their customers.

How much does a satellite cost to build? Even with a lower success rate, with a cheaper launch cost, it might end up being a better bargain launching twice as many satellites and losing half of them.

Of course, that wouldn't be acceptable for human cargo.

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#29
Elon Musk seems to be someone who really knows how to do cool things with the spoils of a successful software company. Are there any other good examples of people like this that have taken one big win and parlayed it into investing in seriously futuristic technology?

Re: SpaceX Falcon Heavy announced: 53 metric tons to low earth orbit

#30

This is extremely cool but I have one question about the website design; what's with using Flash for the headings (I only noticed because I have click-to-flash turned on)?

The build rocket ships, who cares about their website?
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