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Re: Ubuntu from 2004 to 20.04 LTS

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Post by Hamcha »

powersnail wrote: post #10

The first Linux I installed was from a copy of RedHat that my father got for me from the IT department. At the time, it took me a while to set up, because I had no idea why there must be so many partitions, so many settings, so many options of this and that, and had to research each one on a slow internet. I understood about 50% of what I read, and scratched my head through the rest. Not to mention I didn't speak Eng…

I think what Ubuntu wants to differentiate themselves with is their own Canonical stuff, at least on the server side (Charmed k8s, Juju, Snap) however I personally like that their installer is still much friendlier than others. One stupid example that shows to what lenghts they go is that during the server install you can provide a Github username and it will auto-populate authorized_keys to all the public keys in that github account.

Re: Ubuntu from 2004 to 20.04 LTS

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Post by jamesponddotco »

andreicek wrote: post #20
jamesponddotco wrote: post #17

I was the leader of the LoCo Team[1] for my state in Brazil, helped translate Ubuntu to Brazilian Portuguese, gave talks around the country to help promote it, handled installation, and support for Ubuntu in public universities, and schools, distributed install CDs, and merchandise in install parties, and events, and had the biggest blog about Ubuntu in Brazil at the time, Ubuntu-BR-SC. Canonical, and the Ubuntu Coun…

I agree with you completely. I'm looking to switch away from Ubuntu for both my personal and work servers. Do you recommend openSUSE for servers as well?

Too soon to say I recommend it, as I started using it last week, but I like it so far. Fast, stable, and bleeding-edge, three words I did not think could be used together.

If you are using Tumbleweed — which I am —, it is like using a more stable, friendly, and tested version of Arch Linux. Leap is similar to an LTS version of Ubuntu, with slightly newer packages sometimes.

I will probably go with Tumbleweed for my servers as well. While that is not recommended by most people, I run so many tests before updating production servers, that this should be okay — plus, I update servers in batches, with my servers coming before customer servers, so I should be able to catch problems there. Still need testing before this becomes reality, though, might stay with Leap for servers in the end.

One thing I liked a lot is openSUSE MicroOS, which is so much easier to install on bare-metal than the Ubuntu equivalent, Ubuntu Core — perfect for bastion servers, VPNs, or LXD host servers, since the root file system is read-only.

I did replace BTFRS with XFS, though, as for my use case, BTFRS provided no benefit, and performance took a big hit. You will need to run your benchmarks to see if it fits your use case, but the options are EXT4, XFS, or BTFRS (the default).

Overall, I am enjoying the experience, and the community is quite nice as well. Heck, I am even giving KDE a try, and giving i3wm a break.

Re: Ubuntu from 2004 to 20.04 LTS

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Post by andreicek »

jamesponddotco wrote: post #23
andreicek wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you completely. I'm looking to switch away from Ubuntu for both my personal and work servers. Do you recommend openSUSE for servers as well?

Too soon to say I recommend it, as I started using it last week, but I like it so far. Fast, stable, and bleeding-edge, three words I did not think could be used together. If you are using Tumbleweed — which I am —, it is like using a more stable, friendly, and tested version of Arch Linux. Leap is similar to an LTS version of Ubuntu, with slightly newer packages sometimes. I will probably go with Tumbleweed for my s…

Thank you for taking the time to write out a detailed response.

Re: Ubuntu from 2004 to 20.04 LTS

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Post by fomine3 »

powersnail wrote: post #10

The first Linux I installed was from a copy of RedHat that my father got for me from the IT department. At the time, it took me a while to set up, because I had no idea why there must be so many partitions, so many settings, so many options of this and that, and had to research each one on a slow internet. I understood about 50% of what I read, and scratched my head through the rest. Not to mention I didn't speak Eng…

> In terms of the packaging, it's a bit mid of the road, not as stable as Debian/CentOS, not as latest as Fedora, and certainly nowhere near bleeding edge.

That's what I need. Predictable LTS release every two years is good.

Re: Ubuntu from 2004 to 20.04 LTS

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Post by dasb »

powersnail wrote: post #10

The first Linux I installed was from a copy of RedHat that my father got for me from the IT department. At the time, it took me a while to set up, because I had no idea why there must be so many partitions, so many settings, so many options of this and that, and had to research each one on a slow internet. I understood about 50% of what I read, and scratched my head through the rest. Not to mention I didn't speak Eng…

> So how does Ubuntu differentiate itself, in 2020?

1. Using the most popular distro is an advantage

2. Polish. The little details add up over time. I tried switching to Mint and had various small problems that I didn't have on stock Ubuntu.

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