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Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Nice forward progress on the search for a preventative treatment. Also TIL bad gum health can lead to colon cancer. So counter intuitive. runs off to brush teeth

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

Literally no dentist would agree with this.

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You are not thinking this right. The carb landscape changed quite a bit compared to the time our teeth evolved: - we eat simple carbs a lot now - we selected fruit for generations based on sugar content - we eat carbs constantly, year after year - we ingest less of protective substances like Vitamin C i.e. you can't just prefix a thing with 'hipster' and call it a day.

- we eat much less dietary fiber (generally)

While that is true, its uncertain how dietary fiber would influence this. Since bacteria can only digest it, it might be feeding the pathogen. It also reduces the acid barrier so it makes stomach survivable.

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- we eat much less dietary fiber (generally)

While that is true, its uncertain how dietary fiber would influence this. Since bacteria can only digest it, it might be feeding the pathogen. It also reduces the acid barrier so it makes stomach survivable.

I'd like to know. Please share whatever you've learned.

FWIW I've lowered my LDL thru diet; less dairy and a lot more grains and beans. And Dr Lustig says fiber blocks metabolism of fructose.

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A useful keyword in this is Helicobacter pylori.

Apparently a huge percentage of people have it, especially in developing countries but not limited to them, and it is known to cause a lot of problems though there is debate about possible benefits of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

There is a sort of cure for it involving proton pump inhibitors and antibiotics. After which, your stomach feels a ton better and your probability of stomach cancer likely decreased.

I had chronic stomach aches since I returned from a long traveling in Thailand. Only recently did I apply this treatment. I've never had such great stomach health.

This was self-diagnosed and treated. I know what many on hacker news thinks about non-experts talking about these sorts of things in recent months. I think that's absurd.

Help yourself because no one else is more invested in your health.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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What causes one bacteria to flourish in the colon? Is it a lack of other flora? Is it diet related? Not to be crass, but I also kind of wonder what it smells like. Are there scientists who study the smells of these biological systems? Seems like that would be a high bandwidth way to gain insight into a gut.

Diet and what other organisms are in your gut. So things like probiotics, antibiotics, etc can change it. C. diff has a funky unique smell and is an opportunistic organism that takes over sometimes and the best treatment when antibiotics fail is a fecal transplant!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

I think things are more complex than "brushing and flossing damages your gums depending on force and utility" because I've got wisdom teeth that I've been forcibly brushing for decades in the interest of making my gumline recede and it just. doesn't. work. I also eat carbs like they're going out of style. At least one serving every day, minimum. I've also had an insatiable sweet tooth for most of my life, although th…

You are probably one of the rare protected people (my wife is one of them). Genetics may play a role (high number and/or diversity of certain salivary enzymes related to carb digestion) along with some life choices (such as excessive milk).

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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A useful keyword in this is Helicobacter pylori. Apparently a huge percentage of people have it, especially in developing countries but not limited to them, and it is known to cause a lot of problems though there is debate about possible benefits of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori There is a sort of cure for it involving proton pump inhibitors and antibiotics. After which, your stomach feels a t…

Same here. I have had various problems with my stomach and eventually diagnosed with H. Pylori. I went through a 10 day treatment with a lot of antibiotics and since then my stomach haven't ever bothered me again.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that is true, its uncertain how dietary fiber would influence this. Since bacteria can only digest it, it might be feeding the pathogen. It also reduces the acid barrier so it makes stomach survivable.

I'd like to know. Please share whatever you've learned. FWIW I've lowered my LDL thru diet; less dairy and a lot more grains and beans. And Dr Lustig says fiber blocks metabolism of fructose.

> I'd like to know. Please share whatever you've learned.

Wouldn't we all :) If I share what I learned, we will be here a very long time...

> FWIW I've lowered my LDL thru diet

Its entirely different context that has no relevance to the topic. Eating fiber anywayz is akin to eating fat AFAIK as colon bacteria digest it into short SFA.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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A useful keyword in this is Helicobacter pylori. Apparently a huge percentage of people have it, especially in developing countries but not limited to them, and it is known to cause a lot of problems though there is debate about possible benefits of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori There is a sort of cure for it involving proton pump inhibitors and antibiotics. After which, your stomach feels a t…

Could you provide some info/links for this cure?

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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A useful keyword in this is Helicobacter pylori. Apparently a huge percentage of people have it, especially in developing countries but not limited to them, and it is known to cause a lot of problems though there is debate about possible benefits of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori There is a sort of cure for it involving proton pump inhibitors and antibiotics. After which, your stomach feels a t…

Could you provide some info/links for this cure?

There's actually a wiki article that lists the standard protocol that a lot of research papers also say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori_eradicatio...

I went through the research papers on the subject and didn't find any indication that one treatment listed in the table did a whole lot better than another combination. Eradication rates seem to be between 70-95 percent depending on the claim of the paper which seems to be in range of likely errors with each paper.

The proton pump inhibitors are over the counter in the US but antibiotics are not (though they are in many other countries). It's a shame that the US is so restrictive here.

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